Next model to appreciate most in value?

[cellison]

Originally Posted by Canine64

Simmer down. Just using my fav line from "No Man's Land". Sheesh.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c0dj11dn98

classic.

[SilberUrS6]

996TT. Bargain Porsche if there ever was one.

[galileo]

Originally Posted by cellison

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c0dj11dn98

classic.

****...cant believe I never seen that!

[Matt Monson]

996TT. Bargain Porsche if there ever was one.

Bargain but not likely to spike in value any time soon. A friend just got a 1 owner garage kept never driven in winter 2004 with 70k mi on it for $26k.

[rw229]

Bargain, yes. A lot of car for the money. Collectable, rising in value? I just don't see it.

Originally Posted by SilberUrS6

996TT. Bargain Porsche if there ever was one.

[OceanVista]

AND its not on Netflix!

Originally Posted by cellison

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c0dj11dn98

classic.

[galileo]

Nope...I checked

[SilberUrS6]

Originally Posted by rw229

Bargain, yes. A lot of car for the money. Collectable, rising in value? I just don't see it.

Yeah, I remember longhood 912s in the same position not too many years ago.

[Matt Monson]

Right, but 912s are 40 years old, not 10.

[blau911]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Right, but 912s are 40 years old, not 10.

And you can work on a 912 yourself.

[christiandk]

Originally Posted by cellison

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c0dj11dn98

classic.

Shame on me. Never saw it. Huge fan of Charlies. Kicking myself in the nuts for not buying his GTS when it was for sale.

Gotta love his quote from Two and a half men when his brother bought a Boxster. "So you bought the girly version of a Porsche".

[SilberUrS6]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Right, but 912s are 40 years old, not 10.

And that makes a difference, how?

Longhood 912s were undervalued not too long ago. You could get really good examples under $10k all day long and several times on Sunday. Now, try and get a non-rusty roller for under $10k.

964s were going for less than half they are right now when I was 911 shopping. You could get a decent '89 for just a little over $10k. I know this for a fact, because I called on a couple of them. Now look at the pricing. 964s are only 20 or so years old.

Age has little to do with it. How desired they are is the only thing that matters. Both the 964 and the 912 prove that.

[pors1968]

912 65-66 911T with option leather S trim special color.

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by SilberUrS6

And that makes a difference, how?

Longhood 912s were undervalued not too long ago. You could get really good examples under $10k all day long and several times on Sunday. Now, try and get a non-rusty roller for under $10k.

964s were going for less than half they are right now when I was 911 shopping. You could get a decent '89 for just a little over $10k. I know this for a fact, because I called on a couple of them. Now look at the pricing. 964s are only 20 or so years old.

Age has little to do with it. How desired they are is the only thing that matters. Both the 964 and the 912 prove that.

Age has a lot to do with it. People are still buying 996 turbos on used car lots from car dealers who are not Porsche dealers, including pawn shop lots and wholesale auction purchased car dealers. They are selling for 1/3 or less of their new price.

What makes you think they will turn? And I mean in the next couple of years. The question on the table is what is going to be the next model to appreciate. Really pristine time capsule 996 turbos might be worth a bit 10-15 years from now when all that is out there are ones that were driven hard and put away wet.

But with them currently planted in the $25-50k price bracket right now, people are buying them and driving the piss out of them. Most of the 6000 cars imported to this country will be over 100k within the next couple of years and in far from collectible condition. Garage queens may appreciate, but not before 2020.

So again, I ask you, on what do you base you opinion that it's the next hot ticket? If you said 996 GT2, I'd say sure, most of the 500+ were babied and only a handful were flogged. But on the 996TT? They get beaten like a mouthy whore...

[cellison]

Originally Posted by OceanVista

AND its not on Netflix!

the full length version is on you tube.

[rw229]

Huge difference.

You've been around long enough to understand this but,

912 =
Vintage
Air cooled
Hand built
Same desirable long hood body as S, E, T
High tides raise all boats

964 =
Air cooled
Hand built
More modern suspension and reasonably functional A/C
Not as radical departure from the classic body as the 993

996T =
Awesome 10 year old used car car for the money for some who see the value
Mass produced
As it approaches on the road , is it a 911, Boxter or Turbo?
Crap interior
None of the above attributes of the other cars

This is not all inclusive.

I will also disagree with age having no influence on value. Time has proven that collector cars are generational.

Air cooled cars will always be more valuable. Just keeping it within the Turbos, check the values on the 930, 965, 993TT vs. 996TT.

Originally Posted by SilberUrS6

And that makes a difference, how?

Longhood 912s were undervalued not too long ago. You could get really good examples under $10k all day long and several times on Sunday. Now, try and get a non-rusty roller for under $10k.

964s were going for less than half they are right now when I was 911 shopping. You could get a decent '89 for just a little over $10k. I know this for a fact, because I called on a couple of them. Now look at the pricing. 964s are only 20 or so years old.

Age has little to do with it. How desired they are is the only thing that matters. Both the 964 and the 912 prove that.

[CalE]

912e Low production numbers, Have seen well sorted cars sell for 30k.

[christiandk]

Originally Posted by CalE

912e Low production numbers, Have seen well sorted cars sell for 30k.

There was a very very nice crystal green car that was around 30k last year. My own Talbot was around 13.000 euros. Totally original but with the 76 flaking paint problem. Have put around 10k and 100+ hours into it. Probably only a 25k Euro car today. But I did not buy it to make money.

[SilberUrS6]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

So again, I ask you, on what do you base you opinion that it's the next hot ticket?

I've been watching the price curve.

There have also been some folks here who have repeated my assertion about the value. Good value for the dollar spent might equal market appreciation as more folks realize the value for the dollar spent equation. More demand = higher prices.

Stupid high like longhood 911S? No.

[The Geologist]

I think the mid-year (1974-1977) 911s are well poised. Due to the bad reputation of the 2.7 engine, their relative cheapness and not-yet-perfected rust-proofing, I suspect a proportionally higher share of these cars were either rusted out, parted out or heavily modified. Of those that remain, I would bet that a good number have had engine swaps. So I think a rust-free, unmodified example with a properly rebuilt and upgraded numbers-matching drivetrain may appreciate better than most.

Gratuitous mid-year pic follows...