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jeffbottman 06-09-2015 10:26 AM

color and value
 
re recent threads on color, would my car bring a premium for unusual color (garnet red metallic), all other things equal?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1433874355.jpg

christiandk 06-09-2015 11:02 AM

Hard question. But not in my world when the car is modded and not a hot color compared to the blue, green and yellows but opinions are like belly buttons - everyone has one.

FS: 1986 911 Carrera Targa $24,500 - Rennlist Discussion Forums

Nice car though, but lose the cock tail :)

COLB 06-09-2015 05:58 PM

I don't think garnet red is a plus. Not a negative - but people are not going to pay extra for it.

The decal and ducktail are going to be of selective appeal.

Nachtfalter 06-09-2015 06:59 PM

I'm seeing condition trumping color and mileage. That is a neat color though, cool car for sure.

Norm K 06-09-2015 07:08 PM

As a Duck I gotta say those USC colors definitely detract from the value ...

COLB 06-10-2015 03:22 AM

Garnet with burgundy are both good colors, but paired may be too much for many buyers, who would prefer a contrasting interior color such as beige our black.

2ndTARGA 06-10-2015 04:02 AM

I'd appreciate opinions on this color interior in a silver car. Too much of a red explosion? Would you vote plus or minus on desirability/value? Thanks!http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1433937560.jpg

WyattEarp 06-10-2015 05:03 AM

I think the bright red interior on a silver car is an awesome combo.

techweenie 06-10-2015 06:14 AM

Color preferences change with the times. In 'austere' times, people prefer austere colors.

In the 80s and most of the 90s, owners painted their Conda/Viper/Tangerine/yellow 911s black or white. Even red.

Porsche made a conscious effort to bring back interesting colors with the 993 introduction.

Now, look at the new GT3RS press car - it's purple!

"Citrus colors" bring a 20% premium on early 911s now. Rare or paint to sample, maybe up to 40%.

Interiors are a bit less consistent, but red interior with black or silver paint is going to be huge for a subset of buyers.

The Garnet car appears to have a matching Garnet interior. I'd say that's probably extremely attractive in person, and I'd call it at +10% to average market value.

techweenie 06-10-2015 07:17 AM

BTW, according to our show, Audi is offering some recycled Porsche colors on the S3 - for only +$18K(!) for the whole package.

https://youtu.be/fOdW5bpZ8Rg

2ndTARGA 06-10-2015 07:43 AM

Speaking of unusual color combos and value, this one was just re-listed. It was on eBay all last week with a starting bid of $55K and no bids. Guess they're trying the BIN method. Another car that might be "gotta have" for a small segment of the market. But quite the opposite of outlandish. My wife called it the "Cadillac Porsche"
Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe 2 Door | eBay

techweenie 06-10-2015 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 2ndTARGA (Post 8660981)
Speaking of unusual color combos and value, this one was just re-listed. It was on eBay all last week with a starting bid of $55K and no bids. Guess they're trying the BIN method. Another car that might be "gotta have" for a small segment of the market. But quite the opposite of outlandish. My wife called it the "Cadillac Porsche"
Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe 2 Door | eBay

That appears to be an 80s Porsche color called 'White Gold Metallic.'

ClassyCarrera 06-10-2015 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by techweenie (Post 8661100)
That appears to be an 80s Porsche color called 'White Gold Metallic.'

Paint to Sample (Linen Metallic) But looks almost the same.

christiandk 06-10-2015 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ClassyCarrera (Post 8661151)
Paint to Sample (Linen Metallic) But looks almost the same.

yes

2ndTARGA 06-10-2015 01:04 PM

Here's one that probably seemed like a great idea - at the time. The chrome wheels are a nice touch as well.
1997 Porsche 911 Turbo 3.6, - Cars.com

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1433970152.jpg

techweenie 06-10-2015 01:07 PM

"In a sea of Guards Red this is a beacon of sunlight"

I don't hate it, but I'd like it more without the cashmere center vent...

Macroni 06-10-2015 01:30 PM

I remember a red 930 & burgundy 67S w/ green interior.... they were to die for....... The odder the better on the must have models creates additional value.......

copbait73 06-10-2015 06:02 PM

Sounds like euro color combos happening in the 80s.
Heard of a guy buying new Corvettes in these contrasting colors to ship overseas. Was told the factory required payment to actually build the car.
I have two 73.5 cars which were black and tan interior when new but both were changed to black probably in the 80s. I did a few myself. Wish they were both the original colors now.

christiandk 06-11-2015 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 2ndTARGA (Post 8661529)
Here's one that probably seemed like a great idea - at the time. The chrome wheels are a nice touch as well.
1997 Porsche 911 Turbo 3.6, - Cars.com

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1433970152.jpg

I think it looks awesome! Vents should be black though.

aerochip 06-16-2015 06:17 AM

I have had people hunt me down after I parked to offer to buy my Garnet Red 930. This color is unique in person - sometimes reddish, sometimes brownish, sometimes purple-ish. I doubt that would happen if it were Guards, Black or White. Who knows what the premium would be, but I think it would certainly sell fast.

shlobeck 06-16-2015 10:12 AM

I think the market is a little different for 30+ years old Porsches as opposed to when they were new. Today odd, rare colors bring value because of the simple rarity of it. But I don't think my '79 930 would've be worth anything extra back in '79 and actually I think many might of found it repulsive.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1434478267.jpg
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Scottc714 06-16-2015 05:41 PM

In the last 2 months Ive had 4 people knock on my door and ask if the Porsche parked in the garage is for sale. Its a 78 White targa.

Its a frenzy out there right now. Color may matter to some but not others.

Having said that Im tired of white cars and trucks so I bought a Petrol blue 80 coupe friday morning. so i guess color does matter to me. Its also got half the miles though. 65K vs 110K :)

aabarth 06-17-2015 06:00 AM

It's like saying size doesn't matter....
;^)



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Scottc714 06-17-2015 03:52 PM

^^^^^Sweet car. Love the color. What is it?

Nick Triesch 06-17-2015 04:40 PM

It's interesting to me how so many folks on this forum just do not like Guards red. Still my favorite. My car is black and I like that also. I just did some checking and the most popular Ferrari color is still red. In fact it is known in the Ferrari world as "resale red!"

Scottc714 06-17-2015 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick Triesch (Post 8672225)
It's interesting to me how so many folks on this forum just do not like Guards red. Still my favorite. My car is black and I like that also. I just did some checking and the most popular Ferrari color is still red. In fact it is known in the Ferrari world as "resale red!"

I think that red Porsches are beautiful but just not for me. Just a little too much. They stand out and say look at me in my red Porsche everyone. Not to mention the way I drive and the target it would provide for cops.

No, for me there are lots of other great colors that are a little more incognito. Nothing at all wrong with guards red though. Just dont have a flamboyant enough personality for it I guess...

Matt Monson 06-17-2015 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Triesch (Post 8672225)
It's interesting to me how so many folks on this forum just do not like Guards red. Still my favorite. My car is black and I like that also. I just did some checking and the most popular Ferrari color is still red. In fact it is known in the Ferrari world as "resale red!"

It's truly a different strokes for different folks thing. There are a bunch of new members and even older water cooled owning members on RL who have been buying Guard's Red cars. Seems every other day I open a "look at my new 911" thread to find a red car.

Luki 06-18-2015 07:32 AM

Silver. Great color and not really a cop magnet. Used all years I believe.

COLB 06-18-2015 06:31 PM

It isn't about liking or disliking red.

It is that no one is paying extra for a red car, because probably 25-30% of them were painted red from the factory.

silverc4s 06-19-2015 09:32 AM

Tradional national racing colors; Germany silver, Italy red, USA blue/white, England Green, France blue, etc.
Cars from these countries evolved somehow to look "better" in national racing color.
That's why German cars look better silver, while Italians look better red...Brits green, etc..

wally509 06-20-2015 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silverc4s (Post 8674827)
Tradional national racing colors; Germany silver, Italy red, USA blue/white, England Green, France blue, etc.
Cars from these countries evolved somehow to look "better" in national racing color.
That's why German cars look better silver, while Italians look better red...Brits green, etc..

Except that white is the official German racing color, contrary to popular belief generated by the silver arrows then M-B's post war continuation of that. But either way white or silver.

aabarth 06-20-2015 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottc714 (Post 8672163)
^^^^^Sweet car. Love the color. What is it?

It is Cobalt Blue !:cool:http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1434864360.jpg

brammo 06-23-2015 03:06 PM

How rare is a plumb Targa? I have never seen one until the car I am looking at. I am suprised but I like it!

spyerx 06-28-2015 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottc714 (Post 8672330)
I think that red Porsches are beautiful but just not for me. Just a little too much. They stand out and say look at me in my red Porsche everyone. Not to mention the way I drive and the target it would provide for cops.

No, for me there are lots of other great colors that are a little more incognito. Nothing at all wrong with guards red though. Just dont have a flamboyant enough personality for it I guess...

Never thought I'd own a red car. Had one before, it was the wife's mini. She had to have red. But on this air cooled whim I bought condition and local, and red it wa, with cashmere interior to boot! But I like it. It screams 80s.

I've had the car almost 3 weeks and I'm not kidding I have gotten more comments about it than I get when I drive my other Porsche. The red just stands out, people love the tail, the Fuchs etc. anyway it's a hoot to drive. Wife loves it too. And she likes red.

On colors and value. Pin the pic below mine is the silver rs. The green one is a friend if mine. Our cars are nearly identical spec (well they were until a little power update for him) except for color. His would sell for maybe 50-75k more (and possibly a lot more) because of green. And rarity isn't it. Silver is the rarest 997.1rs color. But like my 89, I shopped condition and local before color. And I love it. The silver car gets its fair share of attention (which I hate) but it's from enthusiasts who know what an rs is. The red car just looks cool.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1435555248.jpg
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blau911 04-27-2017 10:41 AM

Here is something rare: it looks like a special order beige cab with very odd looking cloth pinstripe brown sport seats and interior. The person who special ordered this car went all in on beige and brown - back in the day when Miami Vice and bright colors were the rage. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1493318242.JPG
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1493318242.JPG
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http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1493318242.JPG

specialtyoneinc 04-27-2017 02:18 PM

All I know is that you are going to pay allot of extra cash due to the rarity of the color.

Here's examples of premium colors that will command a 20% or more premium (non PTS). Pretty much all the colors I like carry a premium minus Red.

911 SC - Arrow Blue or any pastel from the factory.
911 3.2 - Yellow or Green
964 - Ruby Red or Mint
993 - Riviera Blue

Lund 04-27-2017 04:55 PM

how about L360, Coppa Florio Blau?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1493340914.jpg

McLovin 04-27-2017 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silverc4s (Post 8674827)
Tradional national racing colors; Germany silver,
Cars from these countries evolved somehow to look "better" in national racing color.
That's why German cars look better silver, while Italians look better red...Brits green, etc..


Porsche calls its white paint "Grand Prix White" for a reason!;)

Rick Brooklyn 04-27-2017 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blau911 (Post 9567065)
Here is something rare: it looks like a special order beige cab with very odd looking cloth pinstripe brown sport seats and interior. The person who special ordered this car went all in on beige and brown - back in the day when Miami Vice and bright colors were the rage.

Looks like cashmere beige

Rawknees'Turbo 04-27-2017 06:07 PM

Jeebuz, a flesh tone & feces colored car, and a baby crib blue one on the same forum page?!?! You guys are weird!!!


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