Cayman GT4

Macroni · Macroni's Garage

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/881725-2016-cayman-gt4-private-seller-not-dealer.html

What a car...........

NYNick · NYNick's Garage

Yes, we are all lusting after GT4's. I for one don't need to be the first on the block to be seen driving this beast, therefore I will wait until the seller premiums settle down before I consider it.

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puddy · puddy's Garage

These cars look amazing, i'd love to have on on order!

Is the one listed for sale above asking much of a premium over MSRP?

Matt Monson · 09-04-2015, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by puddy

These cars look amazing, i'd love to have on on order!

Is the one listed for sale above asking much of a premium over MSRP?

Very likely. That car was probably around $110k. Guys have been asking anywhere from $10-25k over MSRP trying to cash in. Guys on RL and Ebay have even been selling build spots. It's ridiculous.

I'm really looking forward to driving one in a couple months. I'm going to be involved in an all GT4 track event near the end of the year.

What I'm very excited about is the GT4R. That's what they are calling the Cayman baby Cup Car that is coming out in Dec. That car is going to be so freaking mean!

NYNick · NYNick's Garage

Didn't know about the GT4R...is there an RS in its' future?

Matt Monson · 09-04-2015, 10:07 AM

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Didn't know about the GT4R...is there an RS in its' future?

Nope. The RL guys all want one but AP has said no. There will be another run of gt4 next year with a pdk option.

The GT4R will be a very limited production racecar. Only 1-2 dozen sold in the States. Teams are starting to get the call for commitment. It will run imsa Conti GS, PWC gts and a yet to be named series. Around $150+ spares and a 6-8 race commitment.

puddy · puddy's Garage

Wow that GT4r sounds so cool!

I had heard that the GT4 could be turbo charged next year making this 2015 model rare. Is this still the case or old news and its confirmed to be NA again next year?

Matt Monson · 09-04-2015, 11:15 AM

All standard model Porsches will be turbo next year. But the GT3 won't be. I personally don't think the GT4 will be either but the internet fear mongers are pushing that idea. I think it is speculator driven and guys trying to make a profit on this year's car.

puddy · puddy's Garage

Thanks Matt, I know someone with a 2015 gt4 on order, hopefully I can buy it in a few years when he upgrades!

G450X · G450X's Garage

With the crazy used GT3 prices these days, the GT4 looked like a nice alternative to the GT3, so I replaced the used GT3 with a new GT4 as a have to have "bucket list" car - but wait, they're limited production and sold out instantly, and it seems like many buyers are flipping them on the used marked at silly premiums like used GT3's...

What's a guy to do?? I think RUF can convert a new GT3 to a real 6 speed, that might be worth considering on a used PDK only GT3. I have to have a real manual, I just want an enjoyable driver.

My other thought is to dump all that money into an expensive backdate (Singer-esque) of my old 911SC and forget all this new stuff! I have a lightly modded e46 M3 for longer trips where comfort is more important.

ClassyCarrera · 09-05-2015, 09:25 AM

People that pay over MSRP are just crazy. They are going to continue producing the GT4. Its not a limited produced car like the RS

Matt Monson · 09-05-2015, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by G450X

With the crazy used GT3 prices these days, the GT4 looked like a nice alternative to the GT3, so I replaced the used GT3 with a new GT4 as a have to have "bucket list" car - but wait, they're limited production and sold out instantly, and it seems like many buyers are flipping them on the used marked at silly premiums like used GT3's...

What's a guy to do?? I think RUF can convert a new GT3 to a real 6 speed, that might be worth considering on a used PDK only GT3. I have to have a real manual, I just want an enjoyable driver.

My other thought is to dump all that money into an expensive backdate (Singer-esque) of my old 911SC and forget all this new stuff! I have a lightly modded e46 M3 for longer trips where comfort is more important.

Only the 991 gt3 is pdk. What's wrong with a 996 Or 997.1? Only the RS models and .2 are stupid money.

Rick Brooklyn · 09-05-2015, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ClassyCarrera

People that pay over MSRP are just crazy. They are going to continue producing the GT4. Its not a limited produced car like the RS

It is limited production. And I remember an interview with the head of the GT unit at Porsche who said that they purposely make fewer than they could sell, they have a goal is that not everybody who wants a GTx car, can buy one.

Matt Monson · 09-05-2015, 10:34 AM

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It is limited production. And I remember an interview with the head of the GT unit at Porsche who said that they purposely make fewer than they could sell, they have a goal is that not everybody who wants a GTx car, can buy one.

It goes beyond trying to keep it exclusive. The GT division has limited production capacity. They really truly can only make so many of them.

NYNick · NYNick's Garage

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson

It goes beyond trying to keep it exclusive. The GT division has limited production capacity. They really truly can only make so many of them.

Sounds like Porsche has caught the Ferrari bug. Create demand by limiting supply.

G450X · G450X's Garage

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Only the 991 gt3 is pdk. What's wrong with a 996 Or 997.1? Only the RS models and .2 are stupid money.

Hey Matt,

Have you double checked the prices on used GT3's these days?? I probably couldn't do a 996 for the looks, but even 996's and 997.1's are bringing wacky prices these days!

Autotrader had a few, but the nice ones were $105k to $110k, with many 997.2's at $120k and up. The cheapest 996 was $65k and it had over 80k miles. A decent looking 996 was $79k, and even 997.1's with some miles on them were pushing $100k...

I have been saving for a used GT3, but I'm a few years out from buying. I don't think I will be able to keep up with the market trends! When the GT4 came out I was very interested, but they are trading at the inflated hot market value (maybe a pending stock crash will turn things right side up?). I really think if they put a proper manual box in the current GT3 it would help with all the nonsense in the used car market. I think most people who don't track their cars prefer the involvement of a true manual transmission...

Rick Brooklyn · 09-05-2015, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by G450X

Hey Matt,

Have you double checked the prices on used GT3's these days?? I probably couldn't do a 996 for the looks, but even 996's and 997.1's are bringing wacky prices these days!

This. Plus, most of them have been tracked to within an inch of their life. 1 mile on a GT3 is like 10 miles on a normal car.

Matt Monson · 09-05-2015, 04:43 PM

I guess it's a question of your definition of silly money. To me, when a GT4 is $110-125k, depending on spec, then any GT3 under $100k is not silly money. To me silly money is the $150-200k GT2s and 3rses for $125k or more.

There is a black .1 on RL with 10k mi for exactly $100. A white one lasted less than 5 hours earlier this week for around 75k with average miles. Neither are track cars. Many are but not all.

If you let 6s in the mix then $75k will get you a nice car.

NewfieMZ3 · NewfieMZ3's Garage

I will sell mine for the right price, located in Ontario, Canada. Speed Yellow. Nice Options. 675 km.

puddy · puddy's Garage

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I will sell mine for the right price, located in Ontario, Canada. Speed Yellow. Nice Options. 675 km.

I'm curious, Why do you want to sell so soon? Is it not the car you imagined it would be?