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NYNick 09-17-2018 01:01 PM

Still a $50K car or more, now that BaT is going nuts for stuff like this. I think this car is perfect for that audience.

puddy 09-17-2018 01:15 PM

OK, thanks any BAT experts here? I'm selling from Canada, any tips I should know about selling over the border?

JMS935 09-17-2018 01:19 PM

It just costs more to ship it here, and there are customs duties to pay, but those are expenses the buyer pays.

BLACK3.2 09-17-2018 02:08 PM

Honestly, turbo anything that isn't stock is gonna be hard to sell. There are just too many experiences out there with bad builds. There's also the fact that the looks of this car are dated. It's like that with every pro touring style build. They look good in the moment, then age fast. That's just how it is. So figure on the next buyer having to pay for cosmetic updates.

On the plus side, puddy looks like a well-established pelican member, and the build looks solid. I would think your best bet would be to sell it on here. I wouldn't get my hopes up for a big sale price though, and I don't think BaT is a good forum for a car like this. You will get inundated with questions that will raise more questions, and the lots of people will wind up unhappy and won't bid.

puddy 09-17-2018 02:18 PM

Thanks for the honesty Black3.2, I never thought of her looks as dated, I guess I maybe haven't been in the community long enough. I get tonnes of compliments everywhere I go, its almost embarrassing. I had a Shelby Cobra replica before this car and it was embarrassing, people always waving and taking pictures & videos. Well I never would have guessed it but the Porsche is worse than the Cobra, in my area anyways.

BLACK3.2 09-17-2018 02:44 PM

Let me be clear, the car is sexy AF. I was simply commenting on the current trends.

Macroni 09-17-2018 04:46 PM

This car is a hard core hot rod......

Needs to be purchased by someone who understands it or a proven reseller (911R) who has a vision, ability, more importantly the commitment and finances to convert more on trend with current BAT/Cars and Coffee types and their correspondingly big bucks...... another backdated RSR...... to either party the value of $45,000 to $50,000 would be reasonable.

puddy 09-17-2018 06:25 PM

Thanks a lot fellas, after speaking to my wife, she was actually quite upset about selling the car. I didn't realize she was so attached to it. So perhaps I'll keep it for now.

BLACK3.2 09-17-2018 08:22 PM

Will be an interesting comp for you, puddy.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1980-porsche-911sc-19/

puddy 09-18-2018 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BLACK3.2 (Post 10185571)
Will be an interesting comp for you, puddy.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1980-porsche-911sc-19/

That is a sick looking car, will be interesting to see what it goes for!

JMS935 09-18-2018 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BLACK3.2 (Post 10185571)
Will be an interesting comp for you, puddy.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1980-porsche-911sc-19/

That car looks like a premium build. Both hot rods, but this would/should sell for a premium over the OP’s hot rod. I guess it doesn’t matter, though, since wifey won’t let it go anyways.

BLACK3.2 09-18-2018 05:27 AM

The main difference i see is the G-50. We have much more information on Chris's build and it appears quality. Twin spark, etc

JMS935 09-18-2018 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BLACK3.2 (Post 10185773)
The main difference i see is the G-50. We have much more information on Chris's build and it appears quality. Twin spark, etc

These hot rods are always missing the turbo transmission. Why do they all spend the money for all of this work and not finish it off with the proper tranny? Maybe they prefer the 5 over the 4, and the G50/50 5 speed is just too expensive, that could be part of it. I personally prefer the 4 speed, and yet still never see any of these builds with that tranny either. They always have either the 915 or the G50, both non turbo tranny’s.

1979-930 09-18-2018 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JMS935 (Post 10185793)
These hot rods are always missing the turbo transmission. Why do they all spend the money for all of this work and not finish it off with the proper tranny? Maybe they prefer the 5 over the 4, and the G50/50 5 speed is just too expensive, that could be part of it. I personally prefer the 4 speed, and yet still never see any of these builds with that tranny either. They always have either the 915 or the G50, both non turbo tranny’s.

The NA guys don't realize the 4 Speed is a great transmission for a modified turbo.
The are used to the low power, get the RPM's to the moon, and shift,shift,shift driving style.
There is nothing like being on a twisty mountain road in second with nothing but the throttle needed to go from 30 to 90 all day long. It's like driving an automatic. :D

JMS935 09-18-2018 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 1979-930 (Post 10185820)
The NA guys don't realize the 4 Speed is a great transmission for a modified turbo.
The are used to the low power, get the RPM's to the moon, and shift,shift,shift driving style.
There is nothing like being on a twisty mountain road in second with nothing but the throttle needed to go from 30 to 90 all day long. It's like driving an automatic. :D

You couldn't have said it any better! There is nothing like laying on the hammer of a 4 speed 930 and getting to enjoy the full euphoria of all that boost before you need to change gears again. I much prefer the 4 speed over the G50/50 for that very reason.

These turbo conversions aren't a full turbo conversion without the tranny turbo too imo.

BLACK3.2 09-18-2018 06:40 AM

I've driven four speed 930s. No thank you. Takes an eternity to get into boost, then you shift and fall out of boost. Rinse/repeat.

puddy 09-18-2018 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLACK3.2 (Post 10185773)
The main difference i see is the G-50. We have much more information on Chris's build and it appears quality. Twin spark, etc

Thanks, I do consider my car a good quality build, but its certainly not as fresh at the new BAT listing. My car was built mostly as is in the late 90's, its got a twin plug ignition system that works fine, TEC1, I beleive it was the one to get back then, but its quite outdated now. My car is very clean, not a fresh "rust free" build as its been driven for the last 20 years since its glass out repaint. But it is a very clean car.

The comments about it missing a 930 4 speed is interesting. I've wrestled with conversion thoughts myself. My car came with the 915, the previous own raced it for year as is and only rebuilt it once. I've tracked it for the last 4 years and it showing wear in the syncros and sliders, so perhaps a rebuild is in its future. I don't drop the clutch or do big smokey burnouts, so that probably saved her life so far.

Going to a 4 speed seems like a step back for me. Although a 930 would be more robust, the $10-15K USD conversion puts it close to $20K Canadian dollars. I think a rebuild on my 915 is a cheaper better option. I have no interest in doing a G50 conversion. I like the the idea of a shortbell housing bolt in 930 trans, better than all the fab work for a G50 with hydraulic clutch.

I've driven a stock 930 4 speed and it was boring. But I heard a modded 930 4 speed is alot of fun, so i'll try to get a ride in one at somepoint.

JMS935 09-18-2018 07:16 AM

A stock 930 is fairly boring, regardless of whether it has a 4 or 5 speed. A modified 930 with the 4 speed is the sweet spot, it's where you can fully enjoy the boost without the extra rowing. I have both modded 4 and 5 speed's. I prefer the 4 speed all day long, but to each his own.

1979-930 09-18-2018 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BLACK3.2 (Post 10185856)
I've driven four speed 930s. No thank you. Takes an eternity to get into boost, then you shift and fall out of boost. Rinse/repeat.

You are correct.
But I specified "Modified Turbo" in my post. Anyone switching from a 4 speed to a 5 speed has already modified their car. Thus eliminating the need for lower gearing. IMO

A true twin scroll set up with long neck inter-cooler sees boost at 2,000 RPM and pulls all the way up.

BLACK3.2 09-18-2018 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1979-930 (Post 10185916)
You are correct.
But I specified "Modified Turbo" in my post. Anyone switching from a 4 speed to a 5 speed has already modified their car. Thus eliminating the need for lower gearing. IMO

A true twin scroll set up with long neck inter-cooler sees boost at 2,000 RPM and pulls all the way up.

I have indeed not driven a modified 4 speed 930.


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