That car looks really nice. By looking at it, I'd say it is upper $20s car but the way it's described with 5 foot paint, high miles on chassis and rebuilt engine, this is probably a lower $20s car.

I agree that a low mile, top condition mid year peaks around $40k. But probably 80% of non-hacked up mid years are $20s.

Keep in mind that I'm referring to 75-77s coupes and not 74s. I would define as exceptional a nice car that presents very well with nice paint (preferably original), somewhat fresh (or without issues/needs) mechanicals (motor, trans, suspension), preferably the original motor (with appropriate upgrades to address the known 2.7 issues), nice interior, reasonable mileage say 100Kish unless it's had a somewhat recent refreshing of the mechanicals, no accident damage/rust issues, etc. Essentially a REALLY nice driver. A Hagerty #2 perhaps.

I would rate this particular car a #4.

Oh, and would it be crazy to trade off a decent, solid, original '86 3.2 coupe with 107K miles to purchase this car? I would sell it to fund the middie.

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There's a price diifference between 74/75 and 76/77. 75 is still emmison exempt in the pesky strict states. And Thats a color that usually has a bump. $25-30k selling price. If the ask it low 30s something around 28-29k will probably get it done.

God I hate this tablet. I don't write like that.

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Thanks Matt. Your opinion is appreciated!

Any others?

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I don't think you should trade the 86 3.2 with 107K for the other car with 250K on the chassis.

The 3.2's are one of the best 911's ever built IMO, and they're worth more to boot.

That seems to be the perspective of everyone that I've mentioned it to so far. The reason I'm attracted to the Middies is that I really like the aesthetics of the narrow body cars, the bright trim, and also the bare bones nature (no sunroof, manual windows, lack of spoilers, and pop-out rear windows) of this specific car. It's that simple. Kinda crazy. The 3.2 is a MUCH more developed car than the mid-years.

Here are a couple pics of my '86.

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I'd put the Ice Green car at $23-24K. It's not a fast car by design, but soggy acceleration could be anything from not getting full range on the throttle linkage to $$$erious issues. Tailpipe backfire on decel is usually related to over-rich condition, but not always.

Gaps look good, but PPI is a necessity. 77 is the first year of the fully-galvanized car and anything prior to that needs a lot of examination for rust.

Isnt 76 the first production year for fully galvanized cars. I believe so.

Audible det means there is likely inaudible det happening higher up in the rev range. Tread carefully here. For sure get some leak down numbers.

he is living in 2014 on a cloud at that price :eek: now i've seen pics tho and the ice green is good i'd go to $20k but not much more.

Yes yes totally!!! Same reasons why I wanted a middie myself. Classy, elegant lines. Power nothing. Unassisted braking. You can't make it go faster with a fricking chip. The last fully analog 911.

I wouldn't give up a middie for a 3.2, ever.

That's what I thought, too

I thought '76 was a partial galvanizing and '77 the first true full galvanizing.

What you really need is a '77 (last of the narrow bodies) with a 3.2 transplant = the best of both worlds.

Feeling the midyear love in here. That's rare :-D

Definitely feels like you are driving a go cart on the road. Manual brakes, pop out windows, bright trim. Running errands has never been this fun. Hitting the sweet spot in the RPM range and putting pedal to metal is often delightful because you get a burst of power and you think "yeah this is definitely a Porsche".

MW talks about the experience in driving one of his early cars. You are mashing that pedal a lot more than you would in any other car.

The lord love the 'stirring soup' 915 -it takes finesse and work.

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Gents,

Thanks for all of the feedback and opinions so far! The valuation guidance is really appreciated and Manbridge's suggestion on the leakdown/detonation is good as well. It definitely had audible detonation when putting the pedal to the floor. Again, not sure if it is a timing/tuning/simple thing or $$$omething else as TW cautions.

Oh, and Duane, I regularly read your thread and LOVE your car. That's a cool machine!

Rick, I agree. The mid-years just resonate with me for the reasons stated. The later cars just had too much crap added on to keep them "current" and different enough to drive new sales. The later machines are great cars, but to me, they lost a bit of the original essence due to all the add-ons. And to GTG's point, a mid-year with a 3.2 would be a great combo. :)

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A well lightened, lowered and correctly tuned 3.2 G50 with the proper tires and wheels will blow your opinion of the middies right out of the water. Just sayin'.

No harm in it and each to their own, butt this is always the "go-to" commentary from people who prefer earlier models, to the newer, much more capable ones; they are too heavy, soulless, disconnected from the road/driving experience, too complex, have strayed from the original heritage, etc. The 356 guys said this when the first 911s came out, the air-cooled fanboyz say this about water pumpers, stick shift lovers say the same about modern, automatic gearboxes, n/a drum beaters will say the same about the all-turbo line up, and the list goes one and on. Hellz, even the 3L Turbo leg humpers say the same when comparing them to the 3.3L models - never mind the fact that the 3.3L Turbos blow the earlier ones away in all performance measures, build quality, and creature comforts.

Yessir. I agree and understand where you're coming from. I happen to like all of them - 356s, long-hoods, mid-years, SCs, 3.2s, 964s, 993s, 996s, 997s, and hell, even 930s. ;) They're all cool. Nothing really wrong with any of them. However, the mid-years just happen to appeal to me the most for the reasons stated (even if they aren't as capable as the later cars). I would love to have a big motor (maybe even a 3.3T) stuffed into the back of a nice, clean mid-year. Kinda the best of all worlds. However, I'm at the point in my life where all-out speed isn't as important as just having a great drive in an engaging car. The mid-years are good enough.

Thanks for the perspective!

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For what it's worth (not much) I paid $17,000 for a 76 Targa all original everything, 38k miles.