Goodings 2017 AZ Results

[Macroni]

Lot Vehicles | Gooding & Company Reserve Results Estimate
7 1989 Porsche 911 Carrera Cabriolet | Gooding & Company No $81,400.00 $60-80,000
11 1979 Porsche 930 | Gooding & Company No $145,750.00 $180-220,000
17 1961 Porsche 356 B Coupe | Gooding & Company No $90,750.00 $90-110,000
25 1973 Porsche 911 2.4 S | Gooding & Company No $187,000.00 $200-250,000
35 1975 Porsche 911 Carrera 2.7 | Gooding & Company No $110,000.00 $120-150,000
42 1988 Porsche 959 Komfort | Gooding & Company yes $1,089,000.00 $1,100-$1,300,000
43 1965 Porsche 356 SC Cabriolet | Gooding & Company No $192,500.00 $225-275,000
54 2011 Porsche 997 GT3 RS 3.8 | Gooding & Company No $214,500.00 $225-275,000
57 1973 Porsche 911 2.4 S Targa | Gooding & Company Yes NS $250-325,000
60 1989 Porsche 930 Cabriolet | Gooding & Company No $143,000.00 $125-150,000
62 1958 Porsche 356 A Super Speedster | Gooding & Company No $341,000.00 $200-275,000
107 1967 Porsche 912 | Gooding & Company No $114,400.00 $60-80,000
109 1989 Porsche 911 Carrera | Gooding & Company No $105,600.00 $90-120,000
113 1979 Porsche 930 | Gooding & Company No $115,500.00 $140-180,000
116 1973 Porsche 911 2.4 T | Gooding & Company No $165,000.00 $150-180,000
122 1976 Porsche 911 2.7 S Signature Edition | Gooding & Company No $93,500.00 $120-140,000
135 1971 Porsche 911 2.2 E Targa | Gooding & Company No $170,500.00 $175-225,000
140 1996 Porsche 993 GT2 | Gooding & Company Yes NS $1,300-$1,600,000
145 2011 Porsche 997 Speedster | Gooding & Company No $275,000.00 $275-325,000
149 1970 Porsche 914/6 | Gooding & Company No $99,000.00 $80-100,000
150 1997 Porsche 993 Turbo S | Gooding & Company Yes $396,000.00 $400-500,000
156 2005 Porsche Carrera GT | Gooding & Company Yes $621,500.00 $650-700,000
158 1958 Porsche 356 A Speedster | Gooding & Company Yes $341,000.00 $400-500,000

[Cornerlot]

Strong prices. The '67 912 at $114k; wow!

[1979-930]

Thank you for taking the time to post both of these threads.
You can definitely see which auctions get the rare and low mileage cars.

[Macroni]

Goodings showed interesting results.....

The two 1989 Carreras were sold at very strong numbers; $81,400 for a 30,000 mile cab and $105,600 for a 20,000 mile coupe. While you can create scenarios where these are the last year prior to the 964 thus unique or special I am not totally convinced.

Equally eye opening was the sale of the 1967 912 for $114,000. Difficult to understand given other 912 sales over the last year.

Again, 930 Turbos ($115K & $147K) seem to be coming down but these are still strong numbers when taken in context of where 930s were three years ago.

Lot 54 997.2 GT3RS sold well at $214,500. Lots of available cars on market.

Lot 35 1975 2.7L Carrera at $110,000 while under estimate was a strong sale against current market.

[nathanbs]

Yeah crazy on the 912 looked at this car for sale about 3-4 months ago for about $80k so I'm sure seller is thrilled

[pu911]

Luke,

I think the the two 79 930's were pretty strong sales for inter cooled 930's. They never went to the same pricing as the earlier 3.0 turbo's- I think the biggest correction has been to pricing of the later 86-88 turbo's.

Phil

[Macroni]

The three 79s and two 89s showed really no pattern or consistency. I did think the flat nose Cab was a strong sale.

11 1979 Porsche 930 | Gooding & Company No $145,750.00 $180-220,000


113 1979 Porsche 930 | Gooding & Company No $115,500.00 $140-180,000


73 Bonhams : 1979 PORSCHE 930 3.3 TURBO COUPEChassis no. 9309800256Engine no. 6890199 1979 930 Coupe N $93,500.00 $130-160,000


60 1989 Porsche 930 Cabriolet | Gooding & Company No $143,000.00 $125-150,000

212 1989 Porsche 911 Turbo 'Flat Nose' Cabriolet | Arizona 2017 | RM Sotheby's Y $239,250.00 $225-275,000

[Macroni]

Here is the 2016 930 auctions from my data base..... This is not an all inclusive sale list...... No ebay or BAT.

Lot Year Model Mileage Condition Final
114 1978 930 Coupe 66260 3+ $82,500.00
T87 1979 930 Coupe 103338 3+ $88,000.00
S193 1988 930 Coupe 26388 2 $110,000.00
52 1978 930 Coupe NA 3 $118,250.00
743 1979 930 Coupe 65510 2- $132,000.00
86 1989 930 Slope Cabriolet 34011 3+ $132,000.00
766 1989 930 Coupe 36888 2- $165,000.00
136 1989 930 Slope Cabriolet 57000 2 $181,500.00
398 1977 930 Coupe 15237 2- $187,000.00
1367 1977 930 Coupe NA 2 $264,000.00
105 1977 930 Coupe 16665 2- $275,000.00
126 1976 930 Coupe NA 2 $308,550.00
S131.1 1979 930 Coupe 64 2- $396,000.00
S190 1978 930 Coupe 5080 2 NS (Bid to $140,000)
181 1979 930 Coupe NA 3+ NS (Bid to $69,000)
202 1979 930 Coupe NA 2- NS (Bid to $85,000)

[93097004xx]

Originally Posted by Macroni

Here is the 2016 930 auctions from my data base..... This is not an all inclusive sale list...... No ebay or BAT.



LotYearModelMileageConditionFinal

1141978930 Coupe662603+ $82,500.00

T871979930 Coupe1033383+ $88,000.00

S1931988930 Coupe263882 $110,000.00

521978930 CoupeNA3 $118,250.00

7431979930 Coupe655102- $132,000.00

861989930 Slope Cabriolet340113+ $132,000.00

7661989930 Coupe368882- $165,000.00

1361989930 Slope Cabriolet570002 $181,500.00

3981977930 Coupe152372- $187,000.00

13671977930 CoupeNA2 $264,000.00

1051977930 Coupe166652- $275,000.00

1261976930 CoupeNA2 $308,550.00

S131.11979930 Coupe642- $396,000.00

S1901978930 Coupe50802 NS (Bid to $140,000)

1811979930 CoupeNA3+ NS (Bid to $69,000)

2021979930 CoupeNA2- NS (Bid to $85,000)

I don't know why folks put $100,000 cars like 930s or Testarossas on BaT..

With these cars folks are going to want to see them up close before bidding.

There is quite a difference between buying a $35,000 car sight unseen to a $100,000+ car sight unseen.

That simple.

[voitureltd]

Originally Posted by 93097004xx

I don't know why folks put $100,000 cars like 930s or Testarossas on BaT..

With these cars folks are going to want to see them up close before bidding.

There is quite a difference between buying a $35,000 car sight unseen to a $100,000+ car sight unseen.

That simply.


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^^^^
agree,
I never sell a car sight unseen or not driven. Just too many variables / misinterpretations / perceptions possible of the buyers or mine. I do buy without one but usually I know how to get the info I need to make a good decision. Many buyers ( except some dealers or flippers ) have little idea how to get it right and usually want to pay less to cover their butts. Once they see it in person / drive it and have it inspected many realize my, what it takes, reasonable and to stop worrying about potential problems that do not exist. Usually a serious keeper buyer wants to see/drive inspect. I'll leave the others ( flippers/ dealers, buyers ) for someone else. Also at auction these advantages of driving, professional inspection etc aren't available before purchase. So even if in the heat of the moment bidding at auction many would have bid more if they had more confidence in what they were getting.

[Macroni]

Originally Posted by voitureltd

^^^^
agree,
I never sell a car sight unseen or not driven. Just too many variables / misinterpretations / perceptions possible of the buyers or mine. I do buy without one but usually I know how to get the info I need to make a good decision. Many buyers ( except some dealers or flippers ) have little idea how to get it right and usually want to pay less to cover their butts. Once they see it in person / drive it and have it inspected many realize my, what it takes, reasonable and to stop worrying about potential problems that do not exist. Usually a serious keeper buyer wants to see/drive inspect. I'll leave the others ( flippers/ dealers, buyers ) for someone else. Also at auction these advantages of driving, professional inspection etc aren't available before purchase. So even if in the heat of the moment bidding at auction many would have bid more if they had more confidence in what they were getting.

The element of risk then should allow a realization of a lower entry price versus the purchase through a trade professional.

[gshiwota]

That 914/6 was on BAT last year and only bid to $75K. I'm sure the seller is happy with his $99K from the Gooding auction. Nicely done!

[LuftWaffle]

Puzzling that the White 930 sold for more than the Sienna car. The pictures indicate the Sienna car is a much nicer example. My hunch is that someone paid $30k for the Pasha interior even though the CoA doesn't support the originality.

Thanks for posting the results and links...

[Niche]

Anyone have experience selling with these auctions companies? Seems like the way to go, if you have a nice car.

[Macroni]

Originally Posted by Niche

if you have a nice car.

Key words......


The gent who sold the 914/6 is a board member I am sure he will share his experience.
Here is his ESR thread
My restored 914-6 being sold at Gooding's Scottsdale auction NO RESERVE


I would also ask / PM Techweenie he is also experienced.

[Niche]

Thank you. I have what I think is a nice car. All original 89. Low miles. Don't want to deal with regular public.

[Macroni]

89s are desirable..... I would like a 76 or an 89..... both currently out of my reach.....

[tom6284]

everything goes up and down!! watch we are going down!!!it has been a great run!!!

[Macroni]

Originally Posted by 93097004xx

I don't know why folks put $100,000 cars like 930s or Testarossas on BaT..

With these cars folks are going to want to see them up close before bidding.

There is quite a difference between buying a $35,000 car sight unseen to a $100,000+ car sight unseen.

That simple.

I do not know if this is an all inclusive list of BAT auctions for 2016. I might have missed one.

2016 Year Type Price Comments
9-Sep 1976 930 $85,000.00 No Sale
17-May 1977 930 $128,000.00
13-Jan 1979 930 $73,000.00
23-Jun 1979 930 $115,000.00 No Sale
8-Aug 1979 930 $82,500.00
10-Aug 1982 930 $58,400.00
8-Nov 1982 930 $59,000.00
16-Sep 1984 930 $74,000.00
2-Sep 1986 930 $77,777.00
30-Sep 1986 930 $74,888.00
12-Dec 1986 930 $92,000.00 Modified
30-Dec 1986 930 $71,500.00
22-Aug 1987 930 $66,666.00
25-Oct 1987 930 $66,500.00 46000 Miles
9-Jun 1988 930 Targa $100,000.00
16-Dec 1988 930 $118,000.00 28000 Miles

Total: 16 cars
Average: $84,000 Hi Ave: $91,000 Low Ave: $73,400
High Sale: $128,000
Low Sale: $58,400

3 cars sold over $100,000 with 1 no sale at $115,000.

16 transactions is a sufficient statistic to draw a highly probable conclusion from.

It did appear when looking at the sales chronologically that the market was in fact stable throughout the year, neither increasing or declining. Unfortunately this was not a real time analysis that would allow the tracking of mileage and originality which I have determined appear to be the most differentiating characteristics.

[93097004xx]

Originally Posted by Macroni

I do not know if this is an all inclusive list of BAT auctions for 2016. I might have missed one.

2016YearType Price Comments
9-Sep1976930 $85,000.00 No Sale
17-May1977930 $128,000.00
13-Jan1979930 $73,000.00
23-Jun1979930 $115,000.00 No Sale
8-Aug1979930 $82,500.00
10-Aug1982930 $58,400.00
8-Nov1982930 $59,000.00
16-Sep1984930 $74,000.00
2-Sep1986930 $77,777.00
30-Sep1986930 $74,888.00
12-Dec1986930 $92,000.00 Modified
30-Dec1986930 $71,500.00
22-Aug1987930 $66,666.00
25-Oct1987930 $66,500.00 46000 Miles
9-Jun1988930 Targa $100,000.00
16-Dec1988930 $118,000.00 28000 Miles

Total: 16 cars
Average: $84,000 Hi Ave: $91,000 Low Ave: $73,400
High Sale:$128,000
Low Sale: $58,400

3 cars sold over $100,000 with 1 no sale at $115,000.

16 transactions is a sufficient statistic to draw a highly probable conclusion from.

It did appear when looking at the sales chronologically that the market was in fact stable throughout the year, neither increasing or declining. Unfortunately this was not a real time analysis that would allow the tracking of mileage and originality which I have determined appear to be the most differentiating characteristics.

I was saying that BaT is a excellent place to sell cars $50,000 and down. 930s on the other hand not so much. I'd say most left substantial money on the table. A nice 930 is a $100,000 car no matter the year.

When I say nice that means needing NOTHING mechanically or cosmetically.


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