NOS 3.2 speedster windscreen assemblies

[micheloaks]

I have NOS 3.2 speedster windscreen assemblies. 2 are in factory boxes the third, isn't, though it is also NOS unused despite the light dust from overspray as it has sat inside a body shop uncovered. However this is dry loose dust.

These are complete factory assembled units including

Screen
Mould
Frame
trim
Visors
Mirror

Have been advised with a slight change in fixing method will adapt for use on a 964.

Pricing for these are hard to gauge as a rare part. Though note a second hand unit is on EBAY at $18000usd.

Any assistance in pricing with these. Of course for those who are wanting to buy a similar unit please put forward your market opinion, and while I do not think today that 18000 USD makes sense, I do not think they are worth $1800 either.

Certainly a unicorn

Thoughts appreciated

Cheers

Michel

[micheloaks]

There is no sense of market value as they are such a rare occurrence?

[matt930s]

It's valuable. $8-10k should get you started...

MattR

[micheloaks]

Thx Matt R
Had some aspirational offers at sub 5. That I guess may buy secondhand and or incomplete assemblies.

I've had some feedback suggesting 12 a piece is reasonsble would sell 3 at a discount.

[ohenryinatlanta]

the windshields and some of the other parts are still available over in germany...

your problem is the mkt is prob slim to none as these cars are no longer being driven much - hence no need

[micheloaks]

That's not the actual Q. Asked.

And what is been offered here is factory NOS speedster assemblies, not just some parts. I think also from memory replacement factory glass if available ain't itself 'cheap'.

Though you do say there is a market and thankyou for the input.

There are conversions been done, and the windscreen then one of the signature elenents, and it's also one of the most vulnerable and hard to replace items. So I don't expect a queue of early morning shoppers for these. But they'll know where to get three if needed.

though gives rise to the Q. Is there a PP thread where speedster owners confess they still love to drive their cars.?

[ohenryinatlanta]

as of last year, everything i need to replace my windshield, seal, etc was available when i did it last year to my 964. glass is the same from what i recall ?

there is always a market - demand is the question

[micheloaks]

As before these are NOS factory assembled complete, not a collection of new and or second hand parts.

Of course the market is proportional - both in supply demand

Welcome further feedback on actual market value

Cheers

[SalParadise]

You are going to have to determine actual market value yourself because one probably hasn't sold in years, so to determine an actual market value you have to play it to the market - which is very, very small.

Put one up on eBay with a high reserve and see where it ends. Start it at $1 and put a reserve at $12K (or whatever you feel comfortable with) and see where it lands.

No one knows what they are worth because 1) People with the cars don't need them, 2) People aren't doing conversions right now and 3) There is not one for sale other than one for $18K and that's obviously not moving.

As they say just because they are rare doesn't mean anything. It's all about what someone is willing to pay and there probably aren't more than 20 people in the world looking for one right now.

What were they new?

This is obviously a part that you hang on to if you want maximum dollar return, because there may be a buyer next week, next month or next year. No one knows.

[micheloaks]

As you say you never know. And now would be speedster owners who want to do a conversion know where they can get the signature element (aside from the clam) of the speedster.

Owners of a real speedster who like to hoard rainy day parts, also know where three NOS units are now.

I agree 18k usd appears nuts for a 'second hand windscreen'. But what's a speedster worth?

I've put 12k on them and will discount if someone buys remaining three in one go

[ohenryinatlanta]

Originally Posted by micheloaks

As before these are NOS factory assembled complete, not a collection of new and or second hand parts.

Of course the market is proportional - both in supply demand

Welcome further feedback on actual market value

Cheers

i guess i wasnt clear.

when i needed a new windshield, trim, seal and whatever else they put on, all of it was available from porsche over in germany.

frankly, i didnt give a **** if it was factory assembled by ferry himself. new parts are new parts.

so you need to find out what is NLA and what pricing is and go from there.

i recall the windshield was $2400 or so msrp but they sold it to me for $1800

[micheloaks]

Hi and yes I understood your post. Did you also purchase a frame? If so is it because you rolled it or there was something that fell and damaged the frame? If so hope all ok?

I'm not comparing miscellaneous and individual parts. There is a difference.

And yes I was advised NLA otherwise, I wouldn't have been asking the collective pool here on market commentary. What has become clear, is that they are rare, and the market is proportional.

I've also seen a recent eBay ad for used item 18000usd and an older ad from LA Dismantlers, for used screen doors and clam for 32000 usd. The eBay ad appears to be at least 12 mths old and says NLA.

I also understand the purpose of the thread is to seek opinion, though also real world data points on comparable items. If for instance you are suggesting these are only worth 3500?, 4750? etc and you have something to support the commentary, please advise.

Cheers michel

[faverymi]

There is no market. 0 period.

Unless you rolled over your never driven original speedster ( or modify a beautiful untouched convertible... NOT...)

At that point your insurance may buy the parts new from germany.

I find hard to believe there is a buyer for any them. But it may...

Take what you are being offer or keep them in storage. No fuss

[Catorce]

Rare doesn't mean valuable; I don't think the 911 speedster was produced in anything near the quantities of the 356 speedster, and unlike the 356, very few if any are rolled / burned / smashed / undergoing a total restoration.

If you need the money sell it, if not, you should probably get out of the 911 speedster windshield speculation market.

[micheloaks]

Gents



Matt930s and SalParadise thankyou for your commentary on value, as to paraphrase 'ole Willie'...and that was the question.

Favermi, it would seem if you read ohenryinatlanta's replies, there has been a recent purchase of a complete assembly . It appears he may have taken a rock or, rolled his car or, had something fall on it. Though I'm unclear on what.

For the others, thankyou for your opinions on the state of play for what is a 'rarefied' market place and as per the last posters comment on speculation and by name this Market Forum appears, as does some of the comments, to involve a fair amount of it.

I'll close off on this odd trajectory to the thread.

Have a good drive today gents.

Cheers Michel

[ohenryinatlanta]

you missed my point...

just because jimmy at the porsche beverly hills parts counter types into his computer and it shows NLA......

doesn't necessarily mean it is actually NLA as it very well could be sitting in a warehouse in germany.