911 engine type 901/01

Ronnie_b · 05-26-2017, 08:28 PM

I have an early 911 engine on Ebay and am attempting to sell it as a complete engine, disassembled, less pistons.

It is has an odd combination of numbers- the crankcase is stamped as a type 901/01 with build number 1099. Odd thing is the serial number- KD*912057*. casting dates are Left- December 64 and Right- January 65. Match numbers are 422 on both halves.

I removed the engine and transmission from a rusty 911 back in 1988. It was definitely a very early car- I remember the serial was 300385 or so, and thinking this was among the earliest 911's built. I do remember an expert telling me the rear engine compartment crossbrace looked incorrect- it was smooth, without recesses. The gauges were green lettered and had a wood dash facing.

Anyway, specifics and picture are in the ad. I do not know if I am allowed to post links to auctions, but it is listed as a 1965 Porsche engine.

If it does not sell it soon as a complete package I may part it out. I also have the 1965 transmission as well.

I had a Turbo in the 1990's and have been driving Chevy's ever since. Money from sale of the engine will be used to help correct that problem. Thanks in advance for any comments, and thanks to Pelican for providing this website.

Ronnie_b · 05-26-2017, 08:33 PM

ficke · ficke's Garage

Your engine of course is far from a early 911 complete except for the pistons.
The valuable and rare Solex carburetors are missing. The center lube cams and cam box's are missing and the rare chain box's and lower valve covers are missing, that is what can be seen easily.
So with that in mind and the fact the engine is already disassembled, I would think it would be best to sell the individual components and advertised them by the years of compatibility.

touringmandan · touringmandan's Garage

Just FYI, the "KD" at the start of the engine number indicates that it was rebuilt at the factory.

Ronnie_b · 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ficke

Your engine of course is far from a early 911 complete except for the pistons.
The valuable and rare Solex carburetors are missing. The center lube cams and cam box's are missing and the rare chain box's and lower valve covers are missing, that is what can be seen easily.
So with that in mind and the fact the engine is already disassembled, I would think it would be best to sell the individual components and advertised them by the years of compatibility.

So- what is it, a "sort of early 911 complete"???? or maybe "half early 911 complete???"- I never implied that it was anything other than what is, very clearly, presented in the ad. It was a complete running engine.

I am looking for help regarding the engine serial number, 912057 which is beyond the end of the 6 digit serial numbers according to info I've seen so far. The 4 digit build number, located below the 901/01 stamp, is 1099.

Matt Monson · 05-27-2017, 05:56 PM

I'll take a guess. That's a 1967 normal engine serial number. Couple that with the KD and you are looking at a replacement engine for someone's 67. That might explain why it's lacking a bunch of early stuff.

I've seen a number of NOS replacement cases over the years. They have generally had a type number and production number. But no serial number. I suspect this case is what Porsche had on the shelf when that 67 needed a new case. So it got built up with all the other 67 parts, and stamped with the original serial number of the car it belonged to.

Matt Monson · 05-27-2017, 06:00 PM

What are the pro dates on the heads, since it's apart?

Ronnie_b · 07:21 PM

The production dates on 5 heads are 3-65, and 1 is 2-65. What you have said makes sense.

This looks like an early engine that was unused, and was updated for installation into a later car- Cam boxes and lower valve covers were probably a standard upgrade, as well as Webers vs Solexes. The upper/intake valve covers are also 65, so it looks like they may have changed only what was felt necessary. Chain housings and 1 cover are 65. 1 cover is 66.

Is it possible to determine the VIN of the 1967 car?

And thanks for the help Matt!

Matt Monson · 05-27-2017, 07:17 PM

Very difficult. Dave Pateman might have enough data to tell you within a dozen chassis or so. But the exact one? The person with the chassis would need to have gotten a COA and he looking for it.

What part numbers on the cams? They Solex spec or later?

Ronnie_b · 08:12 PM

date 25-8-67 #901 105 110.0r
date 29-12-66 #901 105 109.0r

both cams have 05 stamped in the sprocket end