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littleoldman 04-04-2018 02:24 PM

Thanks all. I’ll post pictures next week.

dougdadmac 04-05-2018 05:20 AM

Rust free? The conventional wisdom is that 356s started rusting at the factory. Porsche made more C/SC cars than any other 356 model. You could easily pay 90K for a very nice #2 C and SC brings a 15-20K premium assuming all numbers match.

littleoldman 04-05-2018 01:56 PM

Back in the market as the PPI revealed issues.

If you see a nice #2/3 car I am interested.

Nobody is getting younger...my dads in his 80's!

ficke 04-05-2018 02:21 PM

Not c/sc but a nice b in your area to look at for a comparison.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/989023-1960-porsche-356-super-coupe-gt-tanker.html

littleoldman 04-05-2018 04:30 PM

Thanks. I’ll share with my dad. Not sure he loves yellow.
Thanks

NYNick 04-05-2018 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by littleoldman (Post 9990086)
Thanks. I’ll share with my dad. Not sure he loves yellow.
Thanks

That yellow car draws my interest, but something tells me caveat emptor. Just a hunch.

drauz 04-05-2018 07:10 PM

https://www.mohrimports.com/cars-sold/porsche/1964-porsche-356-sc-coupe/971.html

Maybe a father/son cross-country trek to recover this one?
Btw, it might be illuminating for readers to learn of what the PPI revealed. Rust? Accident(s)? Drivetrain problems?

littleoldman 04-06-2018 08:00 AM

PPI was performed by Bobby Singh at Manhattan Motors Sports in Roslyn. He is a well respected 356/911 guy here in the tri-state.

Here is what he revealed...and keep in mind the seller wanted 109K obo.

All 4 shocks gone
All rubber bushings in suspension crumbling
Rust in some areas well concealed by shutz and other seam sealing compounds
Bondo on the doors (door shut lines where off) - which he said indicates longitudinals that are weak
Although the paint was 20+ years old, it was shiny and smooth - sans bondo "all over" and visible sanding marks above passenger door
Weeping trans
Weeping Engine valve covers
Wet carbs
- seemingly all rubber dried up and that was all before he drove the car!

For the price and condition, he said we could do much better.

BTW - he showed me several projects and wow, he has some serious good stuff being built....mainly 356's and a handful of early 911s.

A great day of fun for me with terrible PPI results for the car!

pmax 04-06-2018 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by littleoldman (Post 9990835)
Although the paint was 20+ years old, it was shiny and smooth - sans bondo "all over" ...

... like some of the specimens in this thread. Your PPI guy is a keeper.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-marketplace-discussion/974583-53k-body-work-73k-body-work-you-decide.html

ficke 04-06-2018 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littleoldman (Post 9990835)
PPI was performed by Bobby Singh at Manhattan Motors Sports in Roslyn. He is a well respected 356/911 guy here in the tri-state.

Here is what he revealed...and keep in mind the seller wanted 109K obo.

All 4 shocks gone
All rubber bushings in suspension crumbling
Rust in some areas well concealed by shutz and other seam sealing compounds
Bondo on the doors (door shut lines where off) - which he said indicates longitudinals that are weak
Although the paint was 20+ years old, it was shiny and smooth - sans bondo "all over" and visible sanding marks above passenger door
Weeping trans
Weeping Engine valve covers
Wet carbs
- seemingly all rubber dried up and that was all before he drove the car!

For the price and condition, he said we could do much better.

BTW - he showed me several projects and wow, he has some serious good stuff being built....mainly 356's and a handful of early 911s.

A great day of fun for me with terrible PPI results for the car!

Once again a number 2 car is reveled to be a number 4 car in fact.
60 -70K would be a fair price for that car not 109K

The most common mistake is people over rate their cars.
I am glad you got a PPI that revealed the true level of this car.

Matt Monson 04-06-2018 10:39 AM

Bobby does do nice work.

What about just finding a C with 912 engine and disc brake conversion? We must have done a dozen of thrm at Carquip in the 6 years i was there. There have to be some out there at a substantial savings from an SC.

drauz 04-06-2018 05:12 PM

Matt, I think you meant a B w/ the brake conversion. Good option.
My own SC’s “not for sale” price is now $80k. A coupla more truisms worth repeating when it comes to 356s (or any old sports car);
More than anything else, you are buying the chassis. & Always have a 2nd set of eyes when evaluating a car... even a pro can get blinded by passion, or just bright lights.
Your experience shared here is going to help a lot of folk who are thinking about their first 356.

littleoldman 04-06-2018 06:15 PM

Is it hard to believe that an “unnamed dealer” would represent a car for $109k and know of these major shortfalls in the car? If they did, the price should be in the $low 70s. The fact that they priced it at 109 means they think it’s a #2 car... which clearly it was not.

A few leads are being followed - thanks.

I’m widening the range to include cabriolets. And extending the years of consideration.

dougdadmac 04-07-2018 05:34 AM

Matt No one wants a 356 with 912 engine anymore.I know because I have one. Everything has to be numbers matching. You can put in your ad that the car is a 65 C with non matching 912 engine and still the first thing asked is "Do the numbers match?"

dougdadmac 04-07-2018 05:43 AM

Very nice 62 Normal with S90 engine and C disc brakes: https://porsche356registry.org/classifieds/20214

drauz 04-07-2018 09:39 AM

I’ll take any solid 356 w/ a 912 motor anyday. The more hype’d people are about “numbers matching”, the greater the sales of number punch sets.

Matt Monson 04-08-2018 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by drauz (Post 9991464)
Matt, I think you meant a B w/ the brake conversion. Good option.

My bad. I never did any 356 deals, so never learned the nuances of the model line. Tom kept that business in his sales portfolio, even when he was really sick and I was running the business solo in his absence. I just remember doing a bunch of those long term conversions and being given the parts list to order for them. Most of the ones we did didn't stay stock and ended up with a Shasta 1720 conversion and gearbox job in addition to the brake conversion.

I'm amazed that they are hard to sell. It's the only kind of 356 I would ever buy. At the risk of bringing Rawknees into the conversation, I just couldn't drive around in a car like that without 90+hp to make it fun.

littleoldman 04-08-2018 12:01 PM

I want 90+hp and will open search to include engine swapped upgraded cars as long as the body and mechanicals are superb.

The matching number is nice but not a necessity.

Canine64 04-08-2018 01:01 PM

I love my 59 A Coupe with 912 motor. Fun as Hell to drive, and not so perfect that I’m afraid to really drive it. In fact, put neatly 4000 Miles on it in 6 months. Best Porsche driving purchase I’ve made in years. New P cars are just Meh.....

littleoldman 04-08-2018 03:22 PM

I bet that’s fun. I’m interested in finding one for a similar experience


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