Approx value ranges for 356 SC
 

What is the marketplace for
64-65 356 SC
Numbers matching all over
No rust
One repaint
Original interior in great shape
90kmiles

Thinking of upgrading.

Adam would know. Oh, that's right, you've given him so much s**t the past year you are either too ashamed or afraid to ask him.

Adam
- Mr 356,
Would you take the time to provide the Range for an above average driver with no rust and no issues. Just a super solid non show car that is very presentable in almost any environment.
Thanks

here’s a site where enthusiasts buy & sell SCs...
https://porsche356registry.org/classifieds

I have one - a below avg. driver. If I were selling (which I’m not) I wouldn't take less than $50k.

Just saw a very nice looking SC go on BAT for 122K last week. FWIW

I watch prices all over. I was asking the group consensus for the current peer to peer purchase or sale of a 356 SC '64.

If I was selling BAT w/a reserve would seem smart.
If I was a buyer I'd want to see it locally and access it personally.

If its bought in range of 80-100 would it hold it's value (if the world status quo maintain's itself).

Any buyer (who isn’t loaded, of one sort or another) should personally inspect (or hire a pro) any high $ machine that’s 60 yrs old.

Like real estate & politics... it’s ultimately a local market... one car, one place, one time, one seller & buyer. A group consensus may be useful to bracket one’s thinking, but it ought not over-rule one’s making a personal decision.

This is not aimed at you in any way. It’s my own own generalization. So - Unless one is inside the biz, old sports/GT cars are not investments, they are a hobby, objects of enjoyment & socializing, a past recaptured. Obsession with market price and future valuation is an exercise in rationalizing emotional urge.

Great words here.

^yup^

Well, let's not get too psychobabble-ish. It's the Marketplace Forum. People come here all the time looking for estimates of value, for good reason. LOM is no different. He's looking for a range of values to buy (or sell?) a 356. I can't help there.

I'd love a 356 beater myself. Mainly because that's the only one I could (hardly) justify paying tens of thousands of dollars for. Oh, and also, my wife asked me recently when she would get to park in the garage again, so that's not happening.:eek:

Agree^ but what druz said is still true and it is a good thing to remind ourselves once and awhile of that important fact in this market place forum.

As for the littleoldman's car, it would be nice to know if it had been wrecked and that is why the repaint.
if not wrecked, 50K would be lite and 90K would be all the money. 70-80K is most likely the ballpark with no picture and on the little information given, my rough shot in the dark guess.

Where are the pictures? LOM, let the group evaluate your actual car. The range is $40k to $400k. Thinking of upgrading? Show us where you are starting.

Matt, your bounds are a good start... one order of magnitude. that covers the 356 market in toto, absent outliers (rarities like Carreras).

To get away from babble for the sake of the quants, here’s my analytical approach - it may only work for me. I determine a center point of the bell curve for a type’s selling price, then I double that & halve it. That will be the range of prices for that type, w/ 5s @ the bottom & 1s @ the top. From that point on, the specific price of a specific car is but one of many factors in my decision.

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Prices affected by many things. That is why the range is so large. One owner? Ads worth, same goes for all original metal in good shape including floors and battery box. Of course color can be negative to positive. Range if car is running driving specimen is probably 55K- 130K if sold on auction like BAT and at least 2 people want the car.

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SC cars are rare birds with orig engines.........SCM median price is $110K

I have a hard time believing the NO RUST part
as every 356 I have ever seen had RUST somewhere
inc the cars my dad had in the 60's

I’m helping my dad buy a 356.
He’s the reason I love cars and want to help him relive some past moments when he and my mom had a 63 that they drove all across the country. NY to GA. NY to TX and all points in between.
He wants it despite my belief it’s a bit to old. So I hope we are getting in and will be protected while he relives the dreams of his youth.
As for me I have driven the car a few times and inspected it myself. The PPI is tomorrow, but I hope they have the same OCD for attention to detail I do.
Regardless - the value is only important for Insurance and to make sure I get in/out safety.

I did think the SC was the rare car so that is good.
I think the brakes and the higher HP engine make it a bit safer than a 60-75hp car with drum brakes. But I may be wrong.

Hope it’s all just a great experience with a lot of fun drives and let’s us have more fun together.

As for my cars, I like more HP under the deck lid. But I’m hoping to enjoy what is the older brother to my 911’s that span the decades. 1970(2), 1979, 1991 and 2010.

Fingers crossed the PPI is strong and the fun is stronger!

lom, now, THAT's context!
yours is one of the best reasons to buy anything... especially an old 356.
SC too old? not if he can operate it.
unsafe? compared to ... ? the joy & life-extension you may be creating? life is full of trades.
insurance? you can insure it for the amount you pay... or more... or less... your call.
the SC isn't THAT rare - it was a production automobile... not a 4-cam, or a Scaglietti one-off.
uncommon? yes... all 356s are, unless you attend every Porsche event in the Pacific time zone.
I've driven very good-performing 356s w/ N power & drum brakes. Not in NYC, DC or Atlanta traffic, but no problem in normal driving (pardon pun) on a normal day on the kind or roads that they were made-for. I know of SCs that can & do stay with 911s all day long on back roads at reasonable speeds... no problemo.
If it were me, I'd be willing to pay a bit more for an example very solid mechanically, & very presentable physically, but w/ something about it you & your Dad would actively discuss "what should we do about ..." what could be better? best of luck.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522870072.jpg

Drauz. That’s what I wanted to hear.
Now is the car worth 90-100k. I’d say it’s great condition. A #2 car.

#2? Yes. Even a very nice #3 is likely worth $90k.

Thanks all. I’ll post pictures next week.

Rust free? The conventional wisdom is that 356s started rusting at the factory. Porsche made more C/SC cars than any other 356 model. You could easily pay 90K for a very nice #2 C and SC brings a 15-20K premium assuming all numbers match.

Back in the market as the PPI revealed issues.

If you see a nice #2/3 car I am interested.

Nobody is getting younger...my dads in his 80's!

Not c/sc but a nice b in your area to look at for a comparison.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/989023-1960-porsche-356-super-coupe-gt-tanker.html

Thanks. I’ll share with my dad. Not sure he loves yellow.
Thanks

That yellow car draws my interest, but something tells me caveat emptor. Just a hunch.

https://www.mohrimports.com/cars-sold/porsche/1964-porsche-356-sc-coupe/971.html

Maybe a father/son cross-country trek to recover this one?
Btw, it might be illuminating for readers to learn of what the PPI revealed. Rust? Accident(s)? Drivetrain problems?

PPI was performed by Bobby Singh at Manhattan Motors Sports in Roslyn. He is a well respected 356/911 guy here in the tri-state.

Here is what he revealed...and keep in mind the seller wanted 109K obo.

All 4 shocks gone
All rubber bushings in suspension crumbling
Rust in some areas well concealed by shutz and other seam sealing compounds
Bondo on the doors (door shut lines where off) - which he said indicates longitudinals that are weak
Although the paint was 20+ years old, it was shiny and smooth - sans bondo "all over" and visible sanding marks above passenger door
Weeping trans
Weeping Engine valve covers
Wet carbs
- seemingly all rubber dried up and that was all before he drove the car!

For the price and condition, he said we could do much better.

BTW - he showed me several projects and wow, he has some serious good stuff being built....mainly 356's and a handful of early 911s.

A great day of fun for me with terrible PPI results for the car!

... like some of the specimens in this thread. Your PPI guy is a keeper.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-marketplace-discussion/974583-53k-body-work-73k-body-work-you-decide.html

Once again a number 2 car is reveled to be a number 4 car in fact.
60 -70K would be a fair price for that car not 109K

The most common mistake is people over rate their cars.
I am glad you got a PPI that revealed the true level of this car.

Bobby does do nice work.

What about just finding a C with 912 engine and disc brake conversion? We must have done a dozen of thrm at Carquip in the 6 years i was there. There have to be some out there at a substantial savings from an SC.

Matt, I think you meant a B w/ the brake conversion. Good option.
My own SC’s “not for sale” price is now $80k. A coupla more truisms worth repeating when it comes to 356s (or any old sports car);
More than anything else, you are buying the chassis. & Always have a 2nd set of eyes when evaluating a car... even a pro can get blinded by passion, or just bright lights.
Your experience shared here is going to help a lot of folk who are thinking about their first 356.

Is it hard to believe that an “unnamed dealer” would represent a car for $109k and know of these major shortfalls in the car? If they did, the price should be in the $low 70s. The fact that they priced it at 109 means they think it’s a #2 car... which clearly it was not.

A few leads are being followed - thanks.

I’m widening the range to include cabriolets. And extending the years of consideration.

Matt No one wants a 356 with 912 engine anymore.I know because I have one. Everything has to be numbers matching. You can put in your ad that the car is a 65 C with non matching 912 engine and still the first thing asked is "Do the numbers match?"

Very nice 62 Normal with S90 engine and C disc brakes: https://porsche356registry.org/classifieds/20214

I’ll take any solid 356 w/ a 912 motor anyday. The more hype’d people are about “numbers matching”, the greater the sales of number punch sets.

My bad. I never did any 356 deals, so never learned the nuances of the model line. Tom kept that business in his sales portfolio, even when he was really sick and I was running the business solo in his absence. I just remember doing a bunch of those long term conversions and being given the parts list to order for them. Most of the ones we did didn't stay stock and ended up with a Shasta 1720 conversion and gearbox job in addition to the brake conversion.

I'm amazed that they are hard to sell. It's the only kind of 356 I would ever buy. At the risk of bringing Rawknees into the conversation, I just couldn't drive around in a car like that without 90+hp to make it fun.

I want 90+hp and will open search to include engine swapped upgraded cars as long as the body and mechanicals are superb.

The matching number is nice but not a necessity.

I love my 59 A Coupe with 912 motor. Fun as Hell to drive, and not so perfect that I’m afraid to really drive it. In fact, put neatly 4000 Miles on it in 6 months. Best Porsche driving purchase I’ve made in years. New P cars are just Meh.....

I bet that’s fun. I’m interested in finding one for a similar experience