14" Original FUCHS wheels value

[77Porsche911]

Hey Everyone,
I have a 1977 911 Targa which I bought back in January with 14" Original Fuchs wheels on 195/70/R14 tires. I heard somewhere that 14" Fuchs may be rare and early so I am trying to see how much all four on new tires are worth? 14s are too small for my taste and this car so I would love to put some 16" Fuchs but first need to know value....thanks for the feedback! Some pics of the wheels/car below....

Thanks,
Oscar

[75 911s]

Hey I did a little research for you and found this thread with some useful information.

Remove one front and one back wheel and get the date code and size off the backs.

According to that thread, these were a 'comfort' option as the smaller wheel allows for a bigger tire and thus a softer ride. Someone restoring an early 912 may be interested in them.

[thamlin000]

More comfort package info.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/1977-porsche-911s-archived-road-test-review

[77Porsche911]

Thanks guys, very useful information...you learn something new everyday

[Unobtanium-inc]

Also of interest to 914-6 owners, and now that those cars have passed the $100,000 mark, people will pay for correct date matched 14" FUCHS.

----Adam

[77Porsche911]

Originally Posted by Unobtanium-inc

Also of interest to 914-6 owners, and now that those cars have passed the $100,000 mark, people will pay for correct date matched 14" FUCHS.

----Adam

Great point, thanks Adam! You are so right....I saw a 914-6 owner at cars n coffee he had nut and bolt restored back to German spec with 14" now that I think of it. Thing was immaculate

Oscar

[Unobtanium-inc]

Originally Posted by 77Porsche911

Great point, thanks Adam! You are so right....I saw a 914-6 owner at cars n coffee he had nut and bolt restored back to German spec with 14" now that I think of it. Thing was immaculate

Oscar

Mine had a cobbled together set, every color you can imagine!

---Adam

[Matt Monson]

It all depends on the pro-date. 1976 pro date 912e 14s border on worthless unless the market has changed since I owned mine.

[gearby]

No self-respecting 914/6 owner is going to put ring type Fuchs on their $100,000 car. Unfortunately you're not going to find too many buyers for the 14 inch wheels. Like was said earlier, maybe some 912E owners, but they're a cheap bunch. Otherwise they'd own a 911. Lolol

[Patrick3000]

Originally Posted by 77Porsche911

Hey Everyone,
I have a 1977 911 Targa which I bought back in January with 14" Original Fuchs wheels on 195/70/R14 tires. I heard somewhere that 14" Fuchs may be rare and early so I am trying to see how much all four on new tires are worth? 14s are too small for my taste and this car so I would love to put some 16" Fuchs but first need to know value....thanks for the feedback! Some pics of the wheels/car below....

Thanks,
Oscar

Oscar,

I have a set of five 16/6 Fuchs available that came on my recently acquired 914/6 conversion, they would fit your 77 nicely.

Swapped them out for 15/6 flat Fuchs as I prefer that look on the 914/6.

Here is a picture of the 914/6 with the 16/6 Fuchs let me know if you are interested and I will provide details.

Thanks,

Karl

PS: I don’t know the current value of your 14’s but last month I paid $1500 for four 15/6 flat Fuchs with usable tires. The 15” wheels were dated 1973, if that helps.

[nathanbs]

Depending on date code, condition and price I may be interested

[77Porsche911]

Originally Posted by Patrick3000

Oscar,

I have a set of five 16/6 Fuchs available that came on my recently acquired 914/6 conversion, they would fit your 77 nicely.

Swapped them out for 15/6 flat Fuchs as I prefer that look on the 914/6.

Here is a picture of the 914/6 with the 16/6 Fuchs let me know if you are interested and I will provide details.

Thanks,

Karl

PS: I don’t know the current value of your 14’s but last month I paid $1500 for four 15/6 flat Fuchs with usable tires. The 15” wheels were dated 1973, if that helps.

Thanks Karl! This does help...always glad when someone adds value to the conversation I will PM you to talk further regarding your wheels and BTW, nice 914-6!

[77Porsche911]

Originally Posted by nathanbs

Depending on date code, condition and price I may be interested

I will pull one off soon and let you know details and also take pictures of all 4 so you get a good idea. Thanks for the interest!

[Unobtanium-inc]

Just as a data point. I sold a set of 4 14" FUCHS a few months ago for $1000, but they were date matched and early, 70 if I remember correctly.

---Adam

[Patrick3000]

Originally Posted by 77Porsche911

Thanks Karl! This does help...always glad when someone adds value to the conversation I will PM you to talk further regarding your wheels and BTW, nice 914-6!

You are welcome, here is another data point.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-used-parts-sale-wanted/994709-fuchs-14-x-5-1-2-wheels-restored-911-912-a.html

[Jonny042]

Data point - I had a pair for sale, required complete restoration but were good candidates for it. I think I got $350 for the pair. Very little interest other than the eventual buyer.

The were 70's date code I think?

[Unobtanium-inc]

Originally Posted by Patrick3000

You are welcome, here is another data point.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-used-parts-sale-wanted/994709-fuchs-14-x-5-1-2-wheels-restored-911-912-a.html

For the record, an asking price is not a valid data point.

---Adam

[Patrick3000]

Originally Posted by Unobtanium-inc

For the record, an asking price is not a valid data point.

---Adam

You are incorrect in your definition of what data is and how it can be used.

See below:

Data is measured, collected and reported, and analyzed, whereupon it can be visualized using graphs, images or other analysis tools. Data as a general concept refers to the fact that some existing information or knowledge is represented or coded in some form suitable for better usage or processing. Raw data ("unprocessed data") is a collection of numbers or characters before it has been "cleaned" and corrected by researchers. Raw data needs to be corrected to remove outliers or obvious instrument or data entry errors (e.g., a thermometer reading from an outdoor Arctic location recording a tropical temperature). Data processing commonly occurs by stages, and the "processed data" from one stage may be considered the "raw data" of the next stage. Field data is raw data that is collected in an uncontrolled "in situ" environment. Experimental data is data that is generated within the context of a scientific investigation by observation and recording. Data has been described as the new oil of the digital economy.

[Unobtanium-inc]

Originally Posted by Patrick3000

You are incorrect in your definition of what data is and how it can be used.

See below:

Data is measured, collected and reported, and analyzed, whereupon it can be visualized using graphs, images or other analysis tools. Data as a general concept refers to the fact that some existing information or knowledge is represented or coded in some form suitable for better usage or processing. Raw data ("unprocessed data") is a collection of numbers or characters before it has been "cleaned" and corrected by researchers. Raw data needs to be corrected to remove outliers or obvious instrument or data entry errors (e.g., a thermometer reading from an outdoor Arctic location recording a tropical temperature). Data processing commonly occurs by stages, and the "processed data" from one stage may be considered the "raw data" of the next stage. Field data is raw data that is collected in an uncontrolled "in situ" environment. Experimental data is data that is generated within the context of a scientific investigation by observation and recording. Data has been described as the new oil of the digital economy.

Ok, I will be more specific, using asking prices for gauging the value of a part is not an accurate way to value said part. It's the difference between going through the asking prices on ebay and the sold prices, one is a valid tool, the other is mere speculation.

---Adam

[Patrick3000]

Originally Posted by Unobtanium-inc

Ok, I will be more specific, using asking prices for gauging the value of a part is not an accurate way to value said part. It's the difference between going through the asking prices on ebay and the sold prices, one is a valid tool, the other is mere speculation.

---Adam

You are clearly making decisions using less than the full complement of data at your disposal, please continue to do so, that is one of the many variables that make markets inefficient.