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Please post your non-930 turbo builds.

I am looking for specific builds of those who have add boost to their 911, specifically 3.0L SC, but 3.2 Carreras would be fine as well.

I want to see what parts and combinations people have used... such as manifolds, intakes, turbos, intercoolers, what did you do for mounting the IC, or the turbo (ie braces) What WG, and fuel set up are you running, trying to get a feel for what people have done.

Thanks in advance.
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-Carrera 3.2 w/3.4 Mahle P&Cs, 7.5:1CR
-Protomotive 1 5/8 headers with T4 flange
-TiAL F46 wastegate
-HKS 1 1/2 blow off valve
-Treadstone TRST9 1300hp capable vertical flow intercooler with inlet moved for 911 config
-Borg-Warner S366 T4 turbo (66mm comp, 73mm turbine, 0.91 AR twin-scroll)
-MegaSquirt II v3.57 PCB with Ford EDIS-6 ignition
-Siemens Deka 80lb high-Z injectors
-Large tapered cone K&N filter with 4 inlet
-Lots of eBay silicone couplers
-Gravity oil drain to oil drain plug
-Said to make around 575whp at 1.4 bar, but killed clutch on dyno (blowby made RMS leak oil on clutch). It made 400whp right at 4K RPM before clutch let go and boost was starting to go up


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Holey shirt that car is a monster.Can you please post a longer vid?She sounds like my old Gsxr 750 butttt even better.

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Is that a 915 box or short gear 930 box?

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Holey shirt that car is a monster.Can you please post a longer vid?She sounds like my old Gsxr 750 butttt even better.

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Here's my car with a tiny 58mm Holset HX40 at the same boost. I had a super restrictive air filter at the time, amazing it ran this good.

The filter was so restrictive, the BW S366 in the 1st vid wouldn't even make boost!

No, I didn't shift a bunch of times. I was getting wheel hop bad, so I let off in 2nd. It sounds like I grabbed another gear, but no. This is a 100% stock G50/01 with stock flimsy diff cover and no LSD; open diff.

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Cory - turbo'd '87 C3.2 Guards/Blk, 3.4, 7.5:1 CR P & C's, soon to be 993SS cams and GSXR 750 ITB's fed by 964 intake, Borg-Warner S366 turbo @ 1.4 bar, Treadstone full bay IC, TiAL F46 WG, HKS 1 1/2" BOV, twin 044 pumps, MegaSquirt 2 (v3.57 board) w/EDIS, Tramont wheels (285's rr, 225's frt), Big Reds frt, 993 rr., tower brace, MOMO wheel

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Ran without an IC for a short time while making the new one. It was hitting 1.6 bar with 1.0 bar springs. Bad boost creep. Luckily, it was icy cold these days, so it wasn't pumping much too hot of air in the motor. I never stayed in it either, just short hits here and there. It was nasty!
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Cory - turbo'd '87 C3.2 Guards/Blk, 3.4, 7.5:1 CR P & C's, soon to be 993SS cams and GSXR 750 ITB's fed by 964 intake, Borg-Warner S366 turbo @ 1.4 bar, Treadstone full bay IC, TiAL F46 WG, HKS 1 1/2" BOV, twin 044 pumps, MegaSquirt 2 (v3.57 board) w/EDIS, Tramont wheels (285's rr, 225's frt), Big Reds frt, 993 rr., tower brace, MOMO wheel
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sick.
Mine is a 77' 911s.
Has a carrera rebuilt to 3.3 with 930 cylinders and je 8.1/1 pistons, carrera cams, big bell built intercooler, Porsche wastegate w/1bar spring, Garrett gt35r turbo, short 930 gearbox, RSR/934 clutch, tecgt200 efi, 80lb siemens injectors, COP ignition.
Should be a monster but still learning how to drive it.
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Damn Tippy!

Anyway, mine:

1980 911SC - 3.0l R.o.W 8.6:1 w/ Garrett GT30R
Tony Bitz's MS-I EFI kit (converted to MS-II)
.3 bar spring with MBC adjustment up to ~10psi
Carerra intake
44# injectors. (I really need 55#)
Cheap eBay intercooler
OBX headers (still holding up!)
TIAL wastegate
Zork tube
Turbo is oiled via 930 style connections
Oil is gravity drain to oil sump plug
2350lbs
360whp/321ft-tq
(and DIY widebody!)
See full TURBO CONVERSION write-up here: Another 911sc Turbo Conversion








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1979 3.0 Liter Base Engine:

98mm 9.5:1 JE Pistons
EBS Racing 98mm Cylinders
964 Camshafts
ARP Rod Bolts on Stock Rods
Canyon One-Piece Wrist Pin Bushings
GT3 "Yellow" Main and Rod Bearings
Stock Valve Springs (soon to be upgraded)
Single Plug (again, soon to be twin plug)
3.2 Carrera Intake Manifold
964 Oil Pump
Carrera Chain Tensioners
Elephant Racing Widemouth Oil Cooler

Electronics and Fueling:

AEM Infinity 506 (made my own wiring harness)
AEM EPM with Rasant Adapter (converting to 60-2 crank trigger with EPM as cam sync)
Toyota Sienna V6 Coil Packs (COP)
Injector Dynamics ID725 Injectors
TurboKraft Cylinder Head Temp Sensor Kit
TurboKraft TPS Adapter for 3.2 Throttle Body
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AEM 100psi SS Sensor for Fuel Pressure
Stock 3.2 Carrera IAC
AEM Boost Control Solenoid
AEM 1/8 NPT Fluid Temp Sensor for Oil Temp
AEM 3/8 NPT Air Temp Sensor
Bosch Knock Sensor
AEM CD-5 Digital Dash

Turbo and Associated Parts:

Borg Warner S360 Turbo
B&B Headers, modified for T4 flange and 44mm V-band Wasegate
Turbosmart Gen V 45mm Hypergate
Turbosmart Raceport 50mm Blow Off Valve
Modified Prototype EVO X Intercooler
3" Charge Piping
Custom 3" Exhaust made by Wisecraft Fabrication with Vibrant GESI Catalytic Converter and Vibrant Bottle Resonator
Custom made Turbo Brace
Turbowerx Exa-Pump
Custom made Oil Drain Reservoir
AEM Dry-Flo Air Filter

















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Damn this thing rips!

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-Carrera 3.2 w/3.4 Mahle P&Cs, 7.5:1CR
-Protomotive 1 5/8 headers with T4 flange
-TiAL F46 wastegate
-HKS 1 1/2 blow off valve
-Treadstone TRST9 1300hp capable vertical flow intercooler with inlet moved for 911 config
-Borg-Warner S366 T4 turbo (66mm comp, 73mm turbine, 0.91 AR twin-scroll)
-MegaSquirt II v3.57 PCB with Ford EDIS-6 ignition
-Siemens Deka 80lb high-Z injectors
-Large tapered cone K&N filter with 4 inlet
-Lots of eBay silicone couplers
-Gravity oil drain to oil drain plug
-Said to make around 575whp at 1.4 bar, but killed clutch on dyno (blowby made RMS leak oil on clutch). It made 400whp right at 4K RPM before clutch let go and boost was starting to go up

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Flat6 and 76 911, nice builds!!!!
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Holy crap guys... this is exactly what I was hoping for.....

Such a cool collection of sick cars... Flatsix, love the flares, nuttin but business.

This might not have been a good thread to start... thinking expensive thoughts...


What are your guys thoughts on a "budget" build... FYI I don't know what that means.... thinking things like box headers, eBay TMIC, but a good turbo and supporting bits...

Also, thoughts on transmission solutions.

THANKS A TON!!!
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If you can fab yourself, this all can be done for really cheap relatively.

Not sure if VS Racing and On3 make turbos in the 50s and 60s mms, but those have been proven durable units that are peanuts.

eBay has a slew of intercoolers that cost $100-150. If you can fab your own mounts and piping, youre golden.

Only major expense I foresee is headers and wastegate. Again though, if you can fab, you can convert long tune headers into turbo headers for cheap. eBay sells T3 and T4 flanges for around $50. Tubing is peanuts too.
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Dang, we got some monsters here!!! Mine isn't as hard core but here goes:

US Spec 3.2 with stock compression. Top end rebuild with new valves, guides and webcam 20/21 grind cams. OBX headers (since the build) Tial wastegate, Precision Turbo, Rarelyl8 Outlaw muffler. For engine management stock motronic with RRFPR, MSD 6BTM for Ign retard and split second controler with PMAS MAF with GSF Intercooler. I didn't have luck with the gravity drain so I'm using a Turbowerks scavange pump which does a great job. The runs absolutely 100% perfect. Still running a stock 915 that I had rebuilt several years ago before going turbo. No launches and so far its holding up.

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Gawd I wish I had a wide body!!!
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What a beast Tippy ! #WANT #SweetBabyJesus

Mine is mild with alot of bolt ons ... US 3.2L, stock rebuild, 930 j pipe, Tial F46, AEM Infinity 6, COP ignition, Bosch 044 pump, 60lbs injectors, Treadstone custom intercooler and GT3076R turbo. The weak link is the 915 box and slipping clutch ... think thats what is keeping it together. Latest dyno run shows 300 RWHP / 300 RWTQ at 0.5 bar which I believe is about 350HP. Have a G50/01 that is begging to be installed

Amazing builds on this thread !







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No tail! That was one hung I wanted and gave up. I did have a peekaboo tail for a while though.
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Realistically the only way this works is with some type of engine management. There are some budget resources out there. I am a big fan of the Microsquirt ECUs. They are small and capable. More than enough CPU power to run a turbo conversion controlling spark and fuel. There are a few I/Os for boost control and other simple ancillaries you might want to add. And a price of <$500.

Your easy button is a used 3.2 intake, some EFI system, off the shelf headers, some welding to connect a generic IC and you can put down 350hp without much difficulty. Its been done. And as you can see, there are some fantastic examples of these types of builds.

But @geronimo, Are you capable of building a system? And tuning it? You have multiple posts/threads about budget, not enough power, my car is not as fast as a Vette... (Thank the Lord its not the last one. )

In 99% of cases its the Nut behind the wheel that needs the most work. Spend a few track days with the car and when your lap times are maxed out on a stock car then start making changes. The 911 is very well balanced as a system in stock form. Suspension, brakes, power are all well matched. You can lean on any of these three boxes some but you can tip them over. Too much power and you need more brakes. Too much brake you need more tire. Too much grip you need suspension to match. Its a very slippery slope. Once you start down you don't go back up. The 911 is entirely worthy of upgrades. You have to figure out how far you want to go.
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