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Any chance you can go drive a 930 somewhere?

You can find turbos for pretty good deals relative to a Carrera. I have to imagine a driver 930 at 65k is going to be cheaper than trying to mess around with turbo charging a 3.2 adding flares and doing all the business. Plus you’re pulling apart what sounds like an already very nice car.

The turbo comes out of the box with several advantages including better brakes, shorter trailing arms, wider wheels, etc.

The one disadvantage of the 930 I wish I could change is to have a 5 speed. I like doing backroads and I miss rowing through the gears. I feel like I’m often ringing it out in second or lugging around in 3rd. It’s possible I also don’t know how to drive the car.

Personally I’d say go with a 930, but test drive one or two and see what you think of the 4 speed.

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I guess I was lucky.... when I started looking it was for any old Porsche, preferably a wide body. My plans were to find a basket case, drag it in and do what I could with it.
I found an SC that someone had already done all the work and spent all the money.
Freshly restored, rare Turbo motor, just needed some TLC to get over what the last owner did to it.
I think there are enough of these out there belonging to frustrated owners that a guy with some skills could save a lot by finding one with the money already spent or most of the work already done.

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The romantic in me wants a nasty 3.6/3.8 NA beast, but the insane cost for so little power just makes it a bad deal.

I thought about selling and going for a 930, but I know a stock 930 would not do or be what I want, and in the end I would ruin an investment car.

My SC is not an investment nor will it ever be... it is far from a basket case but far from an investment.
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Geronimo - Hereís a numbers matching (need confirmation) 930 with a 964 body kit on it, exactly what you want. Pick this up and use it for your base to modify from. This car can easily be bought for low 50ís, which makes the entire cost of this car less than a proper wide body turbo upgrade on an SC. Like I recommended before, trade in your SC for the tax credit and finance the balance if needed. Itíll cost you less, and should also net you a better finished product when done, not to mention a lot sooner too.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Porsche-930/273892372820?hash=item3fc541f154:g:SgIAAOSwNsNcvlA y
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The romantic in me wants a nasty 3.6/3.8 NA beast, but the insane cost for so little power just makes it a bad deal.
I went through that exercise as well. Bought a 3.3L 930 engine that needed rebuilt and played with the idea of big cams, C/R and PMOs. My mechanic friend said why would you spend all that money for less power.
The draw back of the 930 is that you can't do anything to the body that won't hurt value. You can add power parts no problem as they are easy to remove, but adding 13" flairs or fiberglass parts involving paint kills resale. With the SC you have a wide open pallet to work with. If the mods are done high quality the car actually may retain it's value. Mine did, after I sold it of course. The guy I sold it to flipped it a couple years late for over double purchase price. The recession is over.
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Yea, I get the value of buying a cheap 930. The gamble is that I have a rust free SC that is a good solid driver. I at least know the car.

A 930, like the one listed which needs a rebuild could be a money pit waiting to happen. I'm thinking with my SC at least its a money pit of my choosing. LOL

If I don't do a wide body the turbo route would be a pretty cheap option, which could pay for a 930 trans and big power *evil laugh*.

Rarlyl8, what have you done to your 915 to keep it alive?
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The romantic in me wants a nasty 3.6/3.8 NA beast, but the insane cost for so little power just makes it a bad deal.

I thought about selling and going for a 930, but I know a stock 930 would not do or be what I want, and in the end I would ruin an investment car.

My SC is not an investment nor will it ever be... it is far from a basket case but far from an investment.
I think you have seen this? 360hp on carbs.
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A big difference between n/a and boosted performance is torque - boosted leaves n/a crying for its mama in that department (aka - much harder, ohhhh shiiiitttt, acelleration).
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Ohhhhh shiiiitttttt! indeed. I've said that twirling around and around as if dancing with the stars but instead into a tree.
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My trip down the turbo trail was as such....

1.) Acquire basket case 964 Cab that looks like a 993 Speedster from family member
2.) Slowly sort it out as I enjoy it and fix little things
3.) Start to realize this thing is totally f***ed and has been in a collision
4.) Feel a weird sort of relief knowing that the car is far from perfect and probably holds little resale value, leaving a clean slate of "what-to-do"
5.) Get doors blown off on a constant basis by bone stock WRX's and Focus ST's blowing vape clouds
6.) Start pricing out cams, intake, exhaust, tune...
7.) Realize the power would excite me for maybe a month and bankrupt me for years.
8.) Also think to self how power-band would be way up top and having to rev it that high to get power would attract too much attention on the street and too much wear on engine.
9.) INSTALL HUGE HAIRDRIER
10.) Never look back smiling the whole way.

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Ohhhhh shiiiitttttt! indeed. I've said that twirling around and around as if dancing with the stars but instead into a tree.
That's what happens when yer looking at porn on your iPhone while driving, bro!!!
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That's what happens when yer looking at porn on your iPhone while driving, bro!!!
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Dude, 360HP NA, the engine cost more than my whole car lol, NA hp, best bet is an LSX swap

Unless something changes, I think I am all in on the turbo route, I'll start collecting parts. Though this year I might be tapped from my trans costs.... Poor Vett guys making all that power, not breaking and having money left over... lol suckers.
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You should get a vett
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Dude, 360HP NA, the engine cost more than my whole car lol, NA hp, best bet is an LSX swap

Unless something changes, I think I am all in on the turbo route, I'll start collecting parts. Though this year I might be tapped from my trans costs.... Poor Vett guys making all that power, not breaking and having money left over... lol suckers.
I was headed down the high HP NA engine route until I realized how much it will cost. Even my 3.6 conversion with updated components was way more expensive than I'll ever admit to my wife. But if you want a car that looks like a 930 and is fun to drive its going to be expensive no matter what route you take. Vette certainly is not a bad option when considering HP/$ ratio.
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Yea, I love the Porsche, trouble is I like fast too... lol So boost it is. At the end of the day I have a steadily forming vision of what I want for my Porsche.

I think the Vette is the best performance car you can buy at even 2x the price.... but because of that they are everywhere. Maybe in the future I can park a Mid-engine one next to the Porsche for weekends with the wife.
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Because I got side tracked with this concept using a type 930 engine conversion.
At some point I will have a 930 not at that point yet.
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I blame the dog
Like that numbskull pilot recently that decided to bring a big dog onboard his single engine aircraft, loose in the cabin, and it pitched a fit at some point and the guy lost control and crashed?!?!

Or, "the dog", like some sort of kinky driving activity?!?!
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. . So boost it is. . . .
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