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			Hello, I was looking for some input on to what your all think about this noise coming from what seems like the drive side engine area. https://imgur.com/a/moue5I6 
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			Not good, obviously. I’d suspect a collapsed chain tensioner and be worried that the timing chain is slapping against the aluminum housing. Might want to sample the oil for aluminum if that’s the case.
		 
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The noise comes on about a minute or so after being started. It sounds like it's coming from the driver side. What's the best way to do an oil sample?
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			I've listened to you vid several times, and if it were mine, I would remove the left/driver's side exhaust rocker's cover and check for a broken head stud - the compression blow-by from that often sounds like a mechanical noise similar to what is in your video.
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			I would try not to run it anymore until you figure it out.  I would definitely pull the valve covers and inspect as it is fairly easy to do... that will also net you some oil although probably not a quality sample to see about metal debris... I would just drain the oil from the motor... drain it onto a rag if you can as it makes it easier to see although sometimes you don't need it   It had a few strange noises going on but I would pull the valve covers first... if you don't see anything there I would say something has gone bad in the timing box... as mentioned by GSXRKen perhaps a collapsed tensioner or like the nut backed off the camshaft if that is even possible. If you do run it again I would use a long screwdriver as a stethescope and see if you can pinpoint the noise, or you can buy a car stethescope and feel around the motor until you can source the noise. Good luck buddy~ J 
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			Okay so when the car first starts up the noise is very low and it gradually get louder within two minutes. I checked around with a stethoscope and feel like the noise is definitely coming from what I think is the scavenge pump? Is where I have the stethoscope in this picture the scavenge pump?  Here is another video when the car first starts https://imgur.com/dNK0R5k 
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			I had almost the same noise, you can hear it in this clip : https://youtu.be/CeC9iYysiqg and this is what I found when I opened the driver side chain cover (I did not turn the engine in any direction when I switched it off, although it looks like it was turned the opposite direction) : https://youtu.be/OK7LV6gMDfY What I found was a small leak in the driver side oil feel line that prevents the tensioner from getting enough oil pressure, crimped a new hose in the line and issue was solved. I hope yours will as simple as that. 
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			when my tensioner collapsed on my 2.7 it sounded like a big exhaust leak.  it would get quiet at speed, yes i had to drive it 250 miles home. but made noise at idle. the tensioner does its job mainly when you let off the gas and at idle. the other thing i would do is pull the vlave covers and make sure you dont have a rocker working its way out. it really sounds like a tensioner though. 
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| Registered |  PO left the the smog pump pulley bolts loose.  The drive pin for the scavenge pump is still tight but one side shows a little wear. | ||
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