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SCHNELE 11-18-2012 03:17 PM

I will get his contact number in my office and post it up.

mooney265 11-18-2012 04:29 PM

Did one for me. He does quality work!

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drmatera 12-07-2012 12:11 PM

I know it's an old post but..

Stock 3.3 motor
Carrera intake (with custom adapters to 3.3 heads)
S262 bullseye turbo
B&B headers
Full bay intercooler
MS2 EFI
E85 fuel
KEP PP & kevlar disc

450rwhp @ 17psi @ 5900
435rwtq

jsveb 12-07-2012 02:21 PM

Drmatera, those are fantastic numbers. I hope I'll be able to copy that setup some day.

AskewRSR 12-07-2012 05:37 PM

Lincoln. I want one of his gauges as well. Which one did you get? Can you forward his contact info to me. Thanks. Tate

drmatera 12-08-2012 02:01 PM

Quote:

Drmatera, those are fantastic numbers. I hope I'll be able to copy that setup some day.
EFI is the key to extracting power from these motors. It's too risky playing with the very limited CIS and stock dizzy. For a moment I considered a few more PSI to reach 500rwhp but I decided against it.

xbmwguy 12-09-2012 02:00 PM

oh well

3.3 motor
pancake manifold opened to 38mm
extreme cylinder heads
garrett gt 35 turbo
bell full bay i/c
mode headers
ms2 efi
e-85 fuel
kep pp and disk
490 rwhp @6300 @14.5 lbs 486 rwtq

carrera manifold next week!!!!

philip j 12-09-2012 02:38 PM

no dyno, but its a torque monster!
 
3.4, 8:1, Carrera heads by Xtreme, large valves, P&P. Carrera manifold, SDS EFI, Meth Injection, twin plug, GT35R, 1.75 GHL headers, B&B muffler dual out, Carrillo Rods, ARP studs/bolts, Kep stage 1, SC cams. any guesses? Philip

proffighter 12-09-2012 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philip j (Post 7140334)
3.4, 8:1, Carrera heads by Xtreme, large valves, P&P. Carrera manifold, SDS EFI, Meth Injection, twin plug, GT35R, 1.75 GHL headers, B&B muffler dual out, Carrillo Rods, ARP studs/bolts, Kep stage 1, SC cams. any guesses? Philip

As an SDS fellow I'd like to see some pics and maybe share your maps with me, would share mine too;)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-930-turbo-super-charging-forum/580883-another-efi-conversion.html

Tippy 12-10-2012 04:16 AM

Comparing Granny Smith to Red apples but:

- Carrera 3.2 with 3.4L, 7.5:1 CR P&C's
- 1-bar 60-1 with 0.81 A/R turbine using 1 5/8" headers
- All stock low-end (minus pistons), cams, intake, TB
- Full bay IC
- 55 lb injectors w/twin -044 pumps
- 431-447whp on Motronic/Protomotive chip
- MegaSquirt whp TBD

Maxx1 12-10-2012 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RarlyL8 (Post 3487360)
DSP,
As you know, a stock '85 930 will produce 255RWHP. You can easily get to 300RWHP with bolt-ons. A modern turbo, intercooler, and a bit of boost.

For the sake of this thread you can also get to 300RWHP without adding boost by changing the turbo, intercooler, and adding a set of SC or like cams.

For 400RWHP using CIS:
- Port Heads
- Headers
- K27S
- iA Fuel Head Mod
- Adjustable WUR
- Larger Intercooler
- 1.0bar Boost
- Free Flowing Muffler




Hmmm that's good to know! I didn't think you could touch 400rwhp using the CIS. I think my next upgrade is a better and bigger intercooler. What is the best bang for the buck there?

My car has a guesstimated 340-350 rwhp. I am nervous about running that 1 bar spring.... I usually don't push my luck with the throttle pinned too long http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...s/visslaan.gif

drmatera 12-10-2012 02:27 PM

There was a nice 930 on the dyno next door with plenty of upgrades and a GT35 turbo. They managed 425rwhp but the a/f was climbing towards the 13's so he stopped there. Actually locked it down in the 400rwhp range to be safe

TurboKraft 12-10-2012 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drmatera (Post 7141967)
There was a nice 930 on the dyno next door with plenty of upgrades and a GT35 turbo. They managed 425rwhp but the a/f was climbing towards the 13's so he stopped there. Actually locked it down in the 400rwhp range to be safe

Same here from a '82 Euro.
Had to drop boost back to 0.8bar and limit him to 5,200rpm until he could fix the lack of fuel up to. Still did just shy of 400whp with typical bolt-ons + SC cams.

1986 930 12-10-2012 03:51 PM

Interesting thread!


I have half of my mods completed:

1986 930 with a Stock 3.3 Motor/stock IC/Stock CIS/RUF VB .9 BAR Boost

My Mods:

K-27 HFS Turbo
B&B Headers
B&B Exhaust
Total Parts and Labor for that upgrade = $4927.92

Future Mods:
RUF IC
Adj WUR/ RPM Solenoid

I have not been able to get it dyno'd yet. What would I expect to have for HP & Torque?

RarlyL8 12-10-2012 05:39 PM

You should have ~350WHP with that combo.

JFairman 12-10-2012 05:55 PM

Open up the internals of the B&B muffler from 2.5" to 3" and remove all the baffles and everything but the 1" of stainless steel packing from the inside and you'll get around another 10-15 horsepower.. and it'll sound better with some nice turbo whistle added in without getting much louder.

SC or 964 cams would help too.

9Thirty 11-24-2013 01:26 PM

Fabspeed IC, headers, single outlet muffler, Tial 46mm .8 spring, K27/29, Patrick MS LWFW and clutch. Leask WUR, MSD 6al programmable, 350 rwhp, 360 rwtq. Lambda is .90 at 6400 rpm 12.7 AFR. Thinking about the fuel head mod.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1385331846.jpg

mark houghton 11-24-2013 02:07 PM

I have no idea...they don't have any dynos anywhere near here out in the sticks. I'm guessing 370 tops at 1.0 bar. But this morning, I think it was closer to 450 with the 28 degree air!

9Thirty 11-24-2013 02:26 PM

I was told that the dyno at the speed shop which is a Dynapack was nicknamed "the hearbreaker" because it reads low. It read 393 rwhp on a Mustang dyno several weeks before with a 1 bar spring. It actually was boosting 1.1 because of the unrestricted exhaust. Too much boost and advance (look at the torque!) for the fuel flow.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1385334853.jpg

The dynapack connects directly to your wheel hub with a load, so the numbers are pretty spot on or somewhat conservative; at least that's what I'm told. I think the biggest concern is how fast the boost comes on (psi), the fuel has trouble catching up when it hits that hard and fast. The MSD programmable made a world of difference, we couldn't retard the advance enough until we installed that. The acceleration is very smooth, almost linear and most importantly safe.

lin7310948 11-24-2013 04:35 PM

i took a little different route to get more power. i replaced the 3.4 liter modified turbo motor in my '78 930 with a mast motorsports drive by wire ls7 motor. the car has no frills and weighs in at a bit less than 2300 pounds. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1385343279.jpg


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