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A DIY MSIII + Delphi ion current coils will be a terrific package.....
There has been discussion for several years that the future "Ultramegasquirt" would include built in ion sensing capability. Given how long it has taken MS-III and the Sequencer to show, I would suspect Delphi will win.
I wonder how much each of those ion sensing pencil coils will cost?
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all that sounds good for when it's available in the future and i hope it's available soon.

while we're waiting for a better mousetrap, the vipec, wolf, and j&s safeguards all work extremely well. proven on the dyno and on the track. plug-and-play. on porsches. today.
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now that i think of it, given how active j&s john is in the industry, i would not be surprised if he came out with a new j&s system that uses ion sensors. in the end, it's enthusiasts like us who win.
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Ah, technology. The R&D depts are already experimenting with integrated ignition/DFI/ion sensing cartridges that will fit the center plug hole location of most engines. I am just waiting for the day that I can drop two of these into my early 911s twin plug holes.

Since we are still living in today, looks like Wolf and J&S are my solution.
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i should mention that the brand-new vipec EMS system designed by Random EMS is only one of two aftermarket systems i am aware of that has a 2-stage knock protection which;
1) retards timing, and if knock is still present
2) cuts boost

aside from the porsche factory system for the 951, the only other system i know of that has this two-stage timing retard+boost-cut knock protection failsafe is the Wolf EMS. both are available from here;
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Link G4s also have that. Vipecs are rebadged Links.
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Bob Boyer at Random EMS gave me the skinny yesterday - he has a great wealth of knowledge to share. It doesn't hurt that he lives 3 miles down the road.
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he also has one of the fastest race-dominating 951's in the world, running wolf EMS with J&S safeguard;







the wolf+j&s has also been running on several race-winning 930's for several years.
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I wonder what kind of downforce he is getting from that rear wing? It sure looks like a steep angle of attack!

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