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Congrats. All the best!!!!!!
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Old 04-19-2009, 07:51 AM
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Headers are same, my design and Ben's magic. Hope to have them ready for production by summer:



They look cool.

Will they be true 100% equal length?
Will you do ones for turbo and ones for N/A 3.2 carrera?
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Yes, true equal length primaries with deviation of +/- 1.5%. I have a box FULL of 321 bits and pieces that were scrapped in that effort.
Yes, will handle 930 (1.5"), 911(1.5"), Carrera (1.625"), and big bore engines (1.75"). 930 will have equal length secondaries as well. All will be 321 stainless.
Still have a lot of work to do but that is the plan. The above picture is the prototype, wait until you see the finished product.
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Congrats Brian!!! Nothing is more satisfying than seeing a lot of long hours and hard work pay off. With all that free time now, no problem making 'Turbopalooza' in June then, right?
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Brian, is there any benefit in making one primary longer? Some old british cars benefitted from this. I have no idea about the timing on these engines.
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Fitting - New service kit.
Needs Fitting - Innovate XD-16 Kit, Kokeln IC. Stephen's K27 HFS, EVO Intake Assy & his Modded USA Fuel Head.

1983 UK 911 3.2 Carrera Sport Coupe. Black, Black Leather with Red Piping, Black Alloy Gear Knob, K&N Air Filter Element, Turbo Tie rods.
Needs Fitting - K&N CO Sensor, Round A/F Dial Gauge, Factory Short Shift Kit.

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There are 2 opposing camps when it comes to header primary sizing for the 930.

- Short unequal length primaries such as B&B/GHL/OBX/FabSpeed, etc.
- Long equal length primaries such as SSI/MarcoManzie/Holcomb/RarlyL8

The theory is that short unequal length primaries just dump the pulses to the turbo as fast as possible which should reduce lag. To me that is just the easy way out, even though 934 headers follow that same basic design. For a race car it works and that is fine.
For a street car you need off-boost torque. N/A engines show a bump in mid range torque and HP by timing the pulse. With a turbo you get even more because you can also take advantage of velocity and pulse timing to more efficiently operate the turbine. Corky Bell lined that out in his book 30+ years ago. Now we have twin volute systems and close tolerance turbos with much higher efficiency.
Don't know about having one primary longer than the others. The boxer 6 is an even firing engine so I don't see a benefit. Doesn't mean there isn't one, I just don't see it.

I consider Turbopalooza a must-do. I've got 2 prototype systems that will be on a couple high powered cars in attendance. Magazine shoots, turbo monsters, strippers and booze? Miss THAT? Every dog here aught to be in that hunt!
I just got my cool high-geared Euro 915/67 Wevoized and need to swap it into the Posermobile. Have a laundry list of things to do "while I'm in there". Work comes first but I'm doing everything in my power to get the car ready for this event.
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Congrats Brian, you guys definitely deserve the opportunity to grow and R&D more stuff to help us all. Remember to always, regardless of how big you get, keep your high quality service and standards.
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The present formula works very well and I have no intentions of changing it. I love development work and talking to folks about these cars. Installation is becoming more of a need all the time and my partner now has the space so that works well. We have a local old-school air-cooled Porsche mechanic on board who has forgotten more about these cars than I will ever know. The plan is to just let things evolve as time permits and pay as we go. Owe nothing and don't push it. If the business is allowed to compromise the passion we have failed.
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With that approach to business there is no room for failure... Go for it!!!!
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Congratulations Brian!


I'm curious why you're not using the Burnstainless collectors? They're expensive, but so are Porsche headers.
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very cool Brian Glad to see that worked out well for you. I also had a local friend of mine just do the same thing (less the 930 line of exhaust) About 20 minutes from me With the same thoughts as you. I think both of you should weather the storm well. Now sometime I will have to drive down and we could do a tech session and finally meet face to face

Seems funny that you guys have never met face to face with all the work you do together. That is the internet for you!
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Internet, UPS/FedEX/USPS, QuickBooks, e-mail and cell phones are all it takes to go global.
It's a whole different world than the one I grew up in. About a week ago I had breakfast with a few fellow PCA members and one asked me if there were enough 930s in Huntsville to support a business. I chuckled and told him I've sold more mufflers in Africa than Huntsville.
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internet, ups/fedex/usps, quickbooks, e-mail and cell phones are all it takes to go global.
It's a whole different world than the one i grew up in. About a week ago i had breakfast with a few fellow pca members and one asked me if there were enough 930s in huntsville to support a business. I chuckled and told him i've sold more mufflers in africa than huntsville.
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Thank you!

The property is owned by my local partner. Two complementary companies will run out of it; RarlyL8 Motorsports and Continental Classics. My focus is 911/930 exhaust systems and his focus is restoration. All of us involved are old school pay-as-you-go so we should be in good shape to weather the crappy economy.
Brian, congrats to you and your local partner, and of course the long distance partner, Ben!! Old skool pay-as-you go works wonders!

I'll be sending you some business in the future. Have a coulpe of guys in Jackson, MS, one in AL and a couple in ATL that are new to Porsche and looking for someone they can trust. Will put you guys together at some point~

All the best!

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Congratulations Brian!


I'm curious why you're not using the Burnstainless collectors? They're expensive, but so are Porsche headers.
See no one comment? thats because there are still some area 51 stuff happening hang on tight
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See no one comment? thats because there are still some area 51 stuff happening hang on tight

Cool!


For those of you who haven't seen a Burns collector, they are worthy of an art gallery!

A cutaway collector from their website:


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As Ben stated we are working on it ...
Cost is a significant factor as I don't want to price the product out of reach for the typical enthusiast. We do have a couple of special projects going right now using that design. Will post more on that later.
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Brian and Ben: My hearty congratulations to you both for the expanded venture into being a supplier to Pelican.

Having personally purchased and used your product line, it's the sort of quality and build that is worthy of being carried in the Pelican inventory of available products. I'm sure you folks will do well in the future and expand from a "cottage" to a slightly larger facility. I've yet to see any better TIG than Ben's.

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Brian, all the best with your new shop!
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Good luck to you and props for having the balls to go out on your own and start a bizniz that follows your passion. Nothing beats looking forward to going to work in the morning.
Great work on your stuff too. If I was in the market I would definitely buy your exhaust.
Are you also selling turbos now that IA is gone?

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