Intercooler and shifter Upgrade

[930guy]

Dilemma No:1
With winter here I decided to upgrade the shifter and intercooler on my 1976 930. I opted for the Hargett pro 930 shifter and purchased the linkage kit. I decided to remove the e brake and heat controllers and re site them where the old shifter sat. The shifter fitted like a dream, but when it came to the linkage problems arose. The shaft does not line up, it will not mate with the opposite end, I am not sure of the best route, should I bend the pipe to mate it up or cut a chanel in the floor?
Any thoughts anyone?

[jsveb]

personally i wouldn't cut in the chassis.

if i understand you correctly on the bending, that is not gonna work either, because it is not going to rotate properly around the joint axis, don't know how to say that properly.

have you tried contacting hargett?

[930guy]

Have sent them an email, just thought I would throw this out there see what you guys think.

[930guy]

Dilemma no:2
Decided to go for an upgrade on my intercooler. Saw the add on eBay Porsche intercooler for 911, 964 Carrera, 930 turbo | eBay
Stated that it would fit the 930 so parted with my cash. few weeks later arrived nice and snug and was put to one side.
Today decided to see how she fitted and wham straight away I could see there was going to be trouble. On there website it states

For CIS engine.

This intercooler is made for engine with EFI conversion, but with extra parts and work, it will be able to install on a engine with CIS injection.

1/ A/C condenser must move to left rear wheel wall.

2/ convert to 965 turbo style diverter valve with 965 turbo 90 degree hose.





3/ use 965 turbo style turbo inlet pipe or you will need a short pipe with silicone hose to connect.




4/ the air nipple for waste gate. Most of the turbocharger compressor housing has the air
nipple to open the waste gate. I will have a tab weld on the turbo to intercooler pipe drill and tap the tab.

5/ I will include aluminium stick you will need to bend and drill for the tail style you have.

So I have to go from this



to this



and finally this




Well If I knew I had to do all this I probably would not have purchased it. My dilemma is I am not sure I could do this on my own. If having seen what I have to work with does anyone think it is worth the hassle, is it an easy mod to do? should I sell it on eBay and try and recoup some funds?
I am handy enough with the mechanics but without some guidance as to where everything needs to go after removal of the parts needed to fit this in.

I would really love to keep this so if anyone could help with some guidance along the way that would be great.

[jsveb]

Hello again. I am not an expert on this, at all

I just want to tell you, all the guidance you are ever going to need for this is right here.

I think we all go in too deep on this all the time. The folks on this board helps us to reel it in safely

When I installed my 964 turbo rubber elbow, I bought it here from pp. I accidentally put two in the order, so I happen to an extra NOS in my shelf. I'll sell it to you at a discounted pp price, just to show what this site is all about.
That is if you are interested.
Let me know how much this part will be if you buy it here on pp including shipping to you. From there we will settle on a price.

Be patient, do a proper search and learn how to ask, this was hard for me. All the help is here

Good luck

[Tt surgeon]

I would sell the IC and get an Andial, TK, etc 1/2 bay cooler. Better yet a BB or rarelyl8 that works with your stock recurc valve.
Re the shifter, they may have sent you a 915 version, call the co.

[Dave 86 930 Fl]

Originally Posted by 930guy

Dilemma No:1
With winter here I decided to upgrade the shifter and intercooler on my 1976 930. I opted for the Hargett pro 930 shifter and purchased the linkage kit. I decided to remove the e brake and heat controllers and re site them where the old shifter sat. The shifter fitted like a dream, but when it came to the linkage problems arose. The shaft does not line up, it will not mate with the opposite end, I am not sure of the best route, should I bend the pipe to mate it up or cut a chanel in the floor?
Any thoughts anyone?

I installed the Hargett and you will need to get a hammer and bend the floor so the shifter linkage will have the necessary clearance.

[IMR-Merlin]

Originally Posted by Dave 86 930 Fl

I installed the Hargett and you will need to get a hammer and bend the floor so the shifter linkage will have the necessary clearance.

So you have mod the chassis for this shifter to work? WEVO's are sounding better by the minute. Not that it matters for my build because I am cutting the car up, but for someone who might want to return his car to original some day, this would be an issue.

I am interested to see how the shifter works. I was going to order one for my G50 conversion.

[icemann427]

930guy,

Well, since it appears you are kind of stuck with that intercooler, the install looks like your normal "long neck intercooler" install with some added steps. You will have to use the 965 parts that you have pictured in your first two pictures. Did your kit come with those parts? If not, you will need them. Also, I'm not sure you need it but since it is pictured, it appears you need to use the grey (gray?) 965 long neck coned turbo hose pictured just to the left and rearward of the fan in your 6th picture that connects between the turbocharger and the large left rear port of your new intercooler. Do you have that? If not, I'm guessing you will need that. Maybe Pelican sells them...I don't know, though, but if not Dr. Porsche will love to get some of your hard earned money. You can use the short stock connecting pipe you pictured with the pink background, but you will have to close off any ancillary ports it may have before you use it (I just had one made since welding the ports shut on my 87' seemed more work than it was worth). There may be some step by step installation instruction threads for long neck intercoolers on Pelican, so do a search to see if you can find any as there are a few vacuum/electrical/manifold items that need to be addressed. I added a long neck quite some time ago and can help you with the install (it is not that difficult, so take heart) but I will have to look at mine a bit before I will be able to remember exactly what I had to do to help you.

Cheers,

[RarlyL8]

Pack that intercooler up and send it back to Asia. You are in for a ****storm trying to make a square peg fit in a round hole. After you butcher your OEM and tally the hours spent you could buy one that is actually designed to fit. As previously stated there are several manufacturers that produce both long and short neck intercoolers.

I'm a big fan of Mark Hargett's but his shifter appears to me to be purely race car stuff. Modifying the chassis for a shifter is not something I would do.

[TT Gasman]

I agree, cut your losses on that IC and get one that fits.

[lin7310948]

i recently installed a hargett shifter into my 1978 930. no problems with fit whatsoever. i suggest that you call mark at hargett and talk to him..looking closer at your picture, the transaxle shifter rod seems to be very low in the tunnel opening which greatly inclreases the angle of the shifter rod assembly.

[pdqcarrera]

Originally Posted by IMR-Merlin

I am interested to see how the shifter works. I was going to order one for my G50 conversion.

I'm very curious too for my [about to be done] G50 conversion as well. Probably going with the WEVO but the Hargett has a very tempting extremely cool factor working for it! ;-)

[IMR-Merlin]

Originally Posted by pdqcarrera

I'm very curious too for my [about to be done] G50 conversion as well. Probably going with the WEVO but the Hargett has a very tempting extremely cool factor working for it! ;-)

Which route are you going? Are you going to swap torsion tubes or notch your existing and go with coil overs. I elected the latter.

[gsmith660]

I would drill a hole where the rod needs to go through that would minimize the structural effects. I just read the rest of the thread I won't comment on the intercooler but you have my condolences.

Originally Posted by 930guy

Dilemma No:1
With winter here I decided to upgrade the shifter and intercooler on my 1976 930. I opted for the Hargett pro 930 shifter and purchased the linkage kit. I decided to remove the e brake and heat controllers and re site them where the old shifter sat. The shifter fitted like a dream, but when it came to the linkage problems arose. The shaft does not line up, it will not mate with the opposite end, I am not sure of the best route, should I bend the pipe to mate it up or cut a chanel in the floor?
Any thoughts anyone?

[IMR-Merlin]

Check to see if your engine and trans are lowered, as previously noted, that looks lower than usual.

[pdqcarrera]

Originally Posted by IMR-Merlin

Which route are you going? Are you going to swap torsion tubes or notch your existing and go with coil overs. I elected the latter.

Have the Patrick Motorsports shortened case so it'll fit right up as is. However, I will eventually be adding coil overs anyway to supplement the TB to reduce full boost squat that the 33mm TB just aren't controlling enough. I'm soooo looking forward to getting it done.

Apologies to the OP for this thread detour... ;-)

[930guy]

Received reply back from Mark at Hargett, He referred to the fitting instructions which state that some early chassis may need small amount of tinkering.
He suggested I take a dead blow hammer and slightly bend down the access panel lip which I have now done. Works like a dream now. I am well pleased.
I have now moved onto the intercooler.