Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > 1- Porsche Technical Forums > 911 / 930 Turbo & Super Charging Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered User
 
hobie911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Eastern central Fla.
Posts: 131
Garage
How does Haggerty come up with there values.

Just looked up my 86 930 On Haggertys ins. site. Holy *****. If my car is a #2 or #3 Makes it worth 60k to 80k
Can any one tell me how they come up with these numbers.

FNG
__________________
Rick Dougal
rkdougal@gmail.com

Last edited by hobie911; 02-12-2014 at 12:08 PM..
Old 02-12-2014, 12:05 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Registered User
 
matsuzaka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 151
I'm not sure how they come up with their numbers but I can tell you that I looked on their site couple of months ago and the "average" value they showed was $19k lower than what they show now!
__________________
86 911 Turbo - K27-7006, BB 3" Dual outlet, BB IC
81 911SC
88 M3
11 IS250C
88 Targa - sold
Old 02-12-2014, 12:29 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
beancounter
 
jwasbury's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Weehawken, NJ
Posts: 3,315
I thought their charts looked a bit "hockey stickish" but then we have this data point...recent sale of '78 930 on ebay. Rare color, but pretty rough car (a solid #4 car by Hagerty standards). Hagerty chart shows #4 condition '78 and '79 models are valued at ~65k. This car sold at 60k - so it got 92% of Hagerty value.


Porsche 930 | eBay

'78-'79 are particularly interesting for me since that's what I own.
__________________
Jacob
Current: 1983 911 GT4 Race Car / 1999 Spec Miata / 2000 MB SL500 / 1998 MB E300TD / 1998 BMW R1100RT / 2016 KTM Duke 690
Past: 2009 997 Turbo Cab / 1979 930
Old 02-12-2014, 12:43 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Registered User
 
mark houghton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Central Washington State
Posts: 3,749
It's magic:

__________________
Mark H. 1987 930, GP White, Wevo shifter, Borla exhaust, stock everything else. The result of a massive Pelicanite good will fire recovery effort. Truely an open book, ready for the slippery slopes to modification.
Old 02-12-2014, 01:42 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Large Member
 
krasuskyp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: top of 3rd
Posts: 4,128
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by hobie911 View Post
Can any one tell me how they come up with these numbers.

FNG
FNG:

__________________
Paul... CT | '87 930 | '07 //S6 v10 JNR | '98 ///M3 vert |
past:

| '01 ///M5 | '96 993 C2 cab | '05 S600 Sport - biturbo V12@Just Not Right 495rwhp / 612rwtq |
| '58 TR3A | '01 //S8 | '95 //S6 6gang | '88 ///M5 | '87 190E 2.3-16 |
Old 02-12-2014, 01:52 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered User
 
tomdeg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: So Cal
Posts: 456
Maybe they did it so everybody insured with them will up their limits
__________________
1976 930
2014 Turbo S
F430
Old 02-12-2014, 09:39 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Rocket Scientist
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Detroit
Posts: 882
He came to our club meeting and explained a few things He is a real car guy, and knows a lot of people, and knows a lot of people who know a lot of people. It is basically a car counting and supply approach. There are so many made, so many wrecked, so many FUBAR, which leaves the remaking ones. Of these, some are in the market, and some aren't. When people start wanting them more, and wanting to sell them less, the price starts to take off.
Old 02-13-2014, 06:31 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Registered User
 
1986 930's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Cape Canaveral Florida
Posts: 289
Garage
This thread inspired me to log on and look at Hagerty's site. Holy Buckets!


So I consider my car to be a 2.5 on their scale. In Aug 2013 it is valued at around $45k and now it is valued at somewhere between $65-$75k????


That seems a little crazy but I will not argue with it.....until I want to buy another one.

The same thing appears to be happening to the NA Cars as well. The 996tt's are the bargains now.
__________________
Mark

1986 930 Ultra-Smith RUF Slant Nose conversion, RUF VB, K-27 HF-S, B&B Headers and Exhaust, RUF Short Shifter, RUF Interior
Old 02-14-2014, 03:19 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Greenwood, IN
Posts: 1,415
Here is a 79 930 that is set to go straight to the stratosphere.

Porsche 930 | eBay
Old 02-14-2014, 06:45 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Registered User
 
TT Gasman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 323
You got that right^^ bid to 130k already!
__________________
Doug
Houston, Texas
997 TT 550RUF
'86 930
Old 02-14-2014, 03:31 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: S. Florida
Posts: 7,234
Unbelievable and 8 days to go on that auction.

Were the USA bound cars really adjusted that high off the ground when new?
USA DOT bumper hight law?

It has the usual warped glove box door most older ones have.
Old 02-14-2014, 06:44 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Rockwall, Texas
Posts: 8,765
Quote:
Originally Posted by JFairman View Post
Were the USA bound cars really adjusted that high off the ground when new?
USA DOT bumper hight law?
WOW, I have never seen anything like that except on 911s in off-road rally trim - looks absolutely ridiculous.
Old 02-14-2014, 09:20 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Norm K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Group W Bench
Posts: 5,057
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1986 930 View Post
So I consider my car to be a 2.5 on their scale. In Aug 2013 it is valued at around $45k and now it is valued at somewhere between $65-$75k????
How do you figure $65K-$75K? Unless I'm reading their chart incorrectly it appears a car rated at 2.5 would be Hagerty-valued somewhere in the low-nineties. Heck, a No. 4 car is shown as being valued at $65K.

Based on Hagerty's updated valuations I contacted them yesterday and, for an additional $32.00 per year, upped the value of my No. 3 car to $85K. Seems kinda crazy but Hagerty set the market so once I was quoted a premium of less than three dollars a month more than it was at $40K I didn't hesitate to make the change.
__________________
`66 912: Sold, `80 930: now resides in Poland, `84 Targa, now resides in The Netherlands, `75 911S: now resides in Northeast Germany, '83 Targa
Old 02-15-2014, 01:13 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Bayside Wi
Posts: 2,517
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930 View Post
WOW, I have never seen anything like that except on 911s in off-road rally trim - looks absolutely ridiculous.
Yes 85 MPH speedo, jacked up ride height and restrictive exhaust was the way it rolled into USA. Here is another 79 stock late 930. If I ever started to drive it much I would change to Euro exhaust and ride height spec. However with these prices, should just leave it alone except paint the wheels paddles to original black.
__________________
Anthony @ Voitureltd Bayside WI.

Last edited by voitureltd; 02-17-2014 at 07:03 AM..
Old 02-15-2014, 06:08 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: S. Florida
Posts: 7,234
ahh.. you editted your post and removed the interior picture and a comment you made on my comment on the interior.
I have email notifications enabled on new posts in threads I've posted in so your original post and interior picture are in my email inbox.

Yeah, the glove box door looks relatively straight and the dash isn't swollen above the AC duct. That seems kind of rare in the older ones and I guess it means this car didn't sit and bake in the hot sun alot and was garaged.

I see scratches in the upper dash behind the steering wheel and I guess thats from women with real long finger nails scraping the dash as they turned the wheel.
This is your first interior picture I'm referring to before and now.

nice car.
Old 02-15-2014, 06:45 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Bayside Wi
Posts: 2,517
nice car.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, I found a picture of the other side but deleted that also as i thought they might be to self serving. I'll re-post. I originally got it 10 years ago with 14K miles, sold it and got it back last year with 33K. Your right, his wife drove it some for the finger nail marks. And yes it was very well taken care of, even sheep skin covers on the seats and a removeable dash cover when not inside since new. I'll bet it would clean up very nice like the black one, but I like them to be left, carefully driven with whatever minor flaws happen. They can be fixed for show or if offered for sale, but not by me, unless cabin fever sets in.
__________________
Anthony @ Voitureltd Bayside WI.

Last edited by voitureltd; 02-17-2014 at 08:11 AM..
Old 02-15-2014, 06:55 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Bayside Wi
Posts: 2,517
Here it is.
__________________
Anthony @ Voitureltd Bayside WI.
Old 02-15-2014, 06:58 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: S. Florida
Posts: 7,234
If you want I'll delete my post with your picture if I can.
Old 02-15-2014, 07:12 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Bayside Wi
Posts: 2,517
Quote:
Originally Posted by JFairman View Post
If you want I'll delete my post with your picture if I can.
Thanks, but I think it is fine the way it is.
__________________
Anthony @ Voitureltd Bayside WI.

Last edited by voitureltd; 02-17-2014 at 08:12 AM..
Old 02-15-2014, 07:20 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Bayside Wi
Posts: 2,517
Quote:
Originally Posted by tonypeoni View Post
Here is a 79 930 that is set to go straight to the stratosphere.

Porsche 930 | eBay
I was surprised when @ $120K. Now over $130. I guess Hagerty is "right on" this one. Even not a rare color. Wait till the ultimate buyer drives or better yet buys one that is nicely modded. The mileage on it will most likely stay under 20K for quite awhile. On the other hand even if he drives it alot, not much i would rather drive than just about any nice 930 no matter the price. So a low mileage one for big $$$$ is still a great deal even if you put miles on it. I don't drive a stock 930 with emission stuff much, as opposed to modded ones ( there is a 112 leaded pump right up the street )
__________________
Anthony @ Voitureltd Bayside WI.

Last edited by voitureltd; 02-17-2014 at 08:13 AM..
Old 02-17-2014, 07:18 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #20 (permalink)
Reply

Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:52 AM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2018 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.