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pkracer21j 09-03-2014 06:47 AM

if you are tracking go lower, just raise the pick up points.;)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1409755637.jpg



Esthetically I like the flares at the tops of the tires.I would lower your nose down and see how you like it.

Les Paul 09-03-2014 09:34 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1409765508.jpg

I'm going adjustable and here are some choices. Are any here that much better or easier to adjust settings? http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1409765628.jpg
Or thishttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1409765660.jpg

speednme1 09-03-2014 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tippy (Post 8243660)
PORfect!

Thank you
Quote:

Originally Posted by Les Paul (Post 8244000)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1409765508.jpg

I'm going adjustable and here are some choices. Are any here that much better or easier to adjust settings? http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1409765628.jpg
Or thishttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1409765660.jpg

I vote for #3....note: if ordering, speak with Clint first...this will insure he has the part in stock....

jsveb 09-03-2014 11:36 AM

Option 3 is coil-over only, right?

speednme1 09-03-2014 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsveb (Post 8244243)
Option 3 is coil-over only, right?

Yes you are correct...if your doing euro height...I think the factory plates should suffice.

infraredcalvin 09-03-2014 06:08 PM

He's got a 76, so the spring plates are the "non adjustable" types... I don't have any first hand exp., but I've seen a lot of sway away and weltmeister versions on cars and floating around. I think they're basically the same to adjust, prob made by the same Chinese mfg too...

Les Paul 09-03-2014 06:26 PM

Talked to Clint and he actually did suggest the sway away. Their high end is coil over. So I'll have 29 torsion bars adjustable ride height on an ancient car. What not to like?

gumba 09-03-2014 06:51 PM

The only down side to the aftermarket plates is you will lose about 1/2" space in the wheel well, which would affect fitting fatter tires.

slyguy 09-03-2014 06:52 PM

Looks perfect to me.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1409799033.jpg

smurfbus 09-03-2014 10:51 PM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-J...o/DSCN0217.JPG

Les Paul 09-18-2014 07:25 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1411053823.jpg

Parts came in yesterday. Could have the beast back on the road next week:)

full quack 09-18-2014 03:57 PM

OK, here is my take on stance, but it is just my personal taste, way too low for most out there.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1411082997.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1411083027.jpg
Now for the bottom line...What exactly do you want out of your car? If it is just to get it low, then adjustable rear spring plates and twisting down the front adjusters will work.
However, it will ride like s#@t, it will handle like s#@t, trust me I've been right where you are at. I too started with the simple approach, like I noted above, bad end results.
I then went a little further, with various different parts-n-pieces, still no joy.

What I wanted was a low car, that rode well, handled very well, and was not too harsh to live with. When you drop a 930 very far, you lose too much suspension travel, bump compliance and steering balance, not to mention the fact that your suspension is no longer working in the proper range or with the proper geometry.
There is only 1 way to really do it right......

Here is what I ended up with for an overall great package with virtually no compromises.

Rebel Racing front control arm bushings.
Rebel Racing rear spring plate bushings.
22mm front & rear adj. Tarett anti-sway bars.
Wevo weld on rear anti-sway bar mounts.
Strut tower brace.
23mm front torsion bars.
31mm rear torsion bars.
Front spindles raised 40mm by ERP.
ERP bump steer kit with welded braces.
Von front strut inserts, custom valved for my torsion bars.
Von shocks rear, shortened overall length, custom valved for my torsion bars.
Fikse 18" x 11" rear rims with 295-35 BFG KDW 2's.
Fikse 17" x 8.5" front rims with 1/4" additional negative offset with 255-40 BFG KDW 2's.
Corner balanced & with aggressive street alignment.
Tire life, about 10K on the rears & 18-20k on the fronts.

No it was not cheap, but I could have saved about $750 by not trying the first two trial-n-error approaches, and just simply have done it right the first time.


My .02 worth, take it or leave it.

Mark

Les Paul 09-18-2014 06:03 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1411092042.jpg
Here is the stance it's had since 95. It doesn't eat tires and tracks straight and true. I don't want to go much lower so its an ongoing endeavor.

Kozmo930 09-18-2014 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by full quack (Post 8268185)
OK, here is my take on stance, but it is just my personal taste, way too low for most out there.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1411082997.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1411083027.jpg
Now for the bottom line...What exactly do you want out of your car? If it is just to get it low, then adjustable rear spring plates and twisting down the front adjusters will work.
However, it will ride like s#@t, it will handle like s#@t, trust me I've been right where you are at. I too started with the simple approach, like I noted above, bad end results.
I then went a little further, with various different parts-n-pieces, still no joy.

What I wanted was a low car, that rode well, handled very well, and was not too harsh to live with. When you drop a 930 very far, you lose too much suspension travel, bump compliance and steering balance, not to mention the fact that your suspension is no longer working in the proper range or with the proper geometry.
There is only 1 way to really do it right......

Here is what I ended up with for an overall great package with virtually no compromises.

Rebel Racing front control arm bushings.
Rebel Racing rear spring plate bushings.
22mm front & rear adj. Tarett anti-sway bars.
Wevo weld on rear anti-sway bar mounts.
23mm front torsion bars.
31mm rear torsion bars.
Front spindles raised 40mm by ERP.
ERP bump steer kit with welded braces.
Von front strut inserts, custom valved for my torsion bars.
Von shocks rear, shortened overall length, custom valved for my torsion bars.
Fikse 18" x 11" rear rims with 295-35 BFG KDW 2's.
Fikse 17" x 8.5" front rims with 1/4" additional negative offset with 255-40 BFG KDW 2's.
Corner balanced & with aggressive street alignment.
Tire life, about 10K on the rears & 18-20k on the fronts.

No it was not cheap, but I could have saved about $750 by not trying the first two trial-n-error approaches, and just simply have done it right the first time.


My .02 worth, take it or leave it.

Mark

well my .02 worth is with Quack ! went the same route and very happy with the balanced idea... spend money wisely
once I saw his car I had to go the same route, ERP and Rebel will help in all areas
Kozmo SmileWavy

onboost 09-19-2014 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Les Paul (Post 8268394)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1411092042.jpg
Here is the stance it's had since 95. It doesn't eat tires and tracks straight and true. I don't want to go much lower so its an ongoing endeavor.

Nice stance Les, but you gotta dump those wheels!
My opinion of course, but the latter factory style wheels do nothing for the earlier body style.

ahenthus 09-19-2014 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onboost (Post 8268967)
Nice stance Les, but you gotta dump those wheels!
My opinion of course, but the latter factory style wheels do nothing for the earlier body style.

Check out the picture in the first post.

Les Paul 09-19-2014 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onboost (Post 8268967)
Nice stance Les, but you gotta dump those wheels!
My opinion of course, but the latter factory style wheels do nothing for the earlier body style.

Does anyone recall pre Internet how many people thought those twists were supposed to be the worthy successor to Fuchs? They were only on the 993tt to start then they put them on everything. Oh well:) anyone want to make me an offer? And to think I passed on many used sets of Ruf for 1,000. Or any # of Fuchs.

Les Paul 09-19-2014 09:56 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1411149344.jpg


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Hams930T 09-21-2014 03:10 PM

Looks great. The RSR look will be very nice for your car sir.

Chris.

Les Paul 09-26-2014 11:46 AM

Back from the alignment shop. All new suspension. Went with 30mm torsion bars in back which tightened it up a bit. Ready for some fall road trips.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1411760668.jpg


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