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Lukesportsman 01-27-2007 09:20 AM

If that was of maximum concern, though I wouldn't think critical on a 350hp street car there are some coatings that enhance heat transfer. Sadly they are usually black but some will show real measurable numbers over other coatings or raw metals.

That same argument could be made against polishing as it decreases surface area. How about sandblasting the nice diecast surfaces with agressive media to increase surface area...it would be a bee-otch to keep clean.

Ben,
How about a pre and post dyno session with the different ignition systems? We could take up a pool since I'd like to see the benefits at this level in the real world. Has your current SC dizzy been recurved for boost or is it stock? If it wasn't optimized, I guess the ignition change comparison would be flawed.

mb911 01-30-2007 04:32 AM

Luke I may do that..

Here are pics as of today 1-30-07http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170163934.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170163949.jpg

Porsche_monkey 01-30-2007 04:52 AM

That OSB has to go. Un-subscribed. ;)

DW SD 01-30-2007 07:08 AM

Looking good, Ben!!

Doug

mb911 01-30-2007 09:54 AM

THANKS GUYS. I can't wait to finish this project up.. I hope the pictures are helpful to anyone thinking of doing this

cgarr 01-30-2007 09:59 AM

It’s too bad that most of what you see is hidden when its all back in the car, especially those heads :D

mb911 01-31-2007 04:25 AM

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Originally posted by cgarr
It’s too bad that most of what you see is hidden when its all back in the car, especially those heads :D
yeah no kidding.. Now my biggest problem now is going to be trying to remove it from the engine stand..

KCPSG 01-31-2007 04:29 AM

Just got back from offshore.. & saw thread again...looking real nice Ben

mb911 01-31-2007 04:30 AM

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Originally posted by KCPSG
Just got back from offshore.. & saw thread again...looking real nice Ben
oh hey.. I found the right radius pipe for your AFM-TB.. Call me if you want one

KCPSG 01-31-2007 04:31 AM

PM me your # again.. I have new cell phone & lost all my contacts

mppickett 01-31-2007 05:53 AM

It really looks great, Ben. Consider buying a 600 lb lift table from pep boys or harbor freight - it really made my install a lot easier. Also, let us know when you need MS timing or fueling tables. Some of us who've gone before can get you idling and running more quickly than starting from scratch (right Hobieboy!). What size injectors are you using?

mb911 01-31-2007 06:32 AM

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Originally posted by mppickett
It really looks great, Ben. Consider buying a 600 lb lift table from pep boys or harbor freight - it really made my install a lot easier. Also, let us know when you need MS timing or fueling tables. Some of us who've gone before can get you idling and running more quickly than starting from scratch (right Hobieboy!). What size injectors are you using?
just 30# at the moment.. I will get it running off the dizzy and be using my VE tables from before I smoked the engine.. HobieBoy Is helping me with the ignition module for my MSI Version 2.2.. As soon as it is up and running I will dump the dizzy for the ignition set up and change the injectors and mess with that.. What injectors are you guys running??

mppickett 01-31-2007 12:57 PM

I'm running 50# injectors. No problem with idle. Here's a link to my specs and MegaSquirt info.

Lukesportsman 01-31-2007 02:37 PM

Thanks for posting that, Mike.

Mike Andrew 02-01-2007 04:16 AM

Ben:

Looks very, very nice. Great progress and thanks for all the posts.

I am so envious. I wish I had the money, time and technical skills to do this.

mb911 02-01-2007 04:25 AM

Here is as of this morning 2-1-07


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170336211.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170336230.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170336251.jpg


Thanks for all the input and a big thanks to Henry@supertec for his advise along with Chris@moto-delta for his suggestions as well..

quattrorunner 02-01-2007 07:20 AM

Very tight. Looks so nice! But that is not an easy "barb" method for the oil drain. I don't weld aluminium! I thought you had a easily duplicatable drain idea, like bolt on, hello!

DW SD 02-01-2007 07:54 AM

I would suggest using hose clamps which won't cut into your oil return line, too. Aircraft or metric style seem to be less aggressive on the hoses. That said, maybe that beefy hose can take it.

Looks great!!

Doug

mb911 02-01-2007 07:58 AM

Yeah the hose is 25 bucks a foot and capable of something like 500 PSi with a teflon lining so I was not to concerned about cutting in I want it to grip really well..

Oh and branden you could easily duplicate this with barb fittings and or an fittings I just chose stainless with some rubber connections.. I was hoping the hose to be black when I ordered it but hey now it looks like a garden hose:confused:

DW SD 02-01-2007 08:02 AM

Green is cool! As long as it doesn't piss oil or water like a garden hose, no worries!!
McMaster has some nice SS aircraft grade hose clamps for pretty reasonable $. Although you probably have access to that in your backyard with the aircraft folks.
Good luck! Looking like an engine! Are you going to fab an IC as part of this project, too?

Doug

JeremyD 02-01-2007 08:06 AM

Wow - that looks great Ben!

quattrorunner 02-01-2007 08:15 AM

Well, where did you get the sump plate?

mb911 02-01-2007 08:26 AM

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Originally posted by quattrorunner
Well, where did you get the sump plate?
supertec@ 65 bucks?? I think call and find out

If you send it to me I will weld it up for free you pay shipping.. then its pretty darn easy;)

quattrorunner 02-01-2007 09:26 AM

Yeah, thanks ben. I'll do that.

hobieboy 02-01-2007 09:31 AM

Looking real good Ben... It looks like you'll firing her up in the next few days then?

And - testing your ignition module now :)

mb911 02-01-2007 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by hobieboy
Looking real good Ben... It looks like you'll firing her up in the next few days then?

And - testing your ignition module now :)

cool! I hope to start it this weekend if I have time..

Oh and I sent your tubing out for polishing yesterday

Porsche_monkey 02-01-2007 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by mb911
Oh and I sent your tube out for polishing yesterday
Can't you do that 'in-house'?

mb911 02-01-2007 12:27 PM

me No! guess that sounds bad I meant I sent you pressure piping out for polishing yesterday;)

mb911 02-03-2007 08:17 PM

its alive.. just got in from running it and cleaning up a bit.. I will post final pics after the IC is mounted

jcc911 02-04-2007 04:23 AM

Thats great news... just gave me a little more confidence that mine will run again one day ;)

Great work, more pics!!

mb911 02-04-2007 04:49 AM

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Originally posted by jcc911
Thats great news... just gave me a little more confidence that mine will run again one day ;)

Great work, more pics!!


NICE

thanks:D

KCPSG 02-04-2007 05:20 AM

Thats great news, Ben

Lukesportsman 02-04-2007 06:12 AM

Pretty impressive progress and outcome. Did you change out the cams when going to twin plugs? I also misunderstood you sump mod from before....it turned out really nice. I may have to hire some more of your services down the road.

Don Settergren 02-04-2007 06:30 AM

With -12 on the thermometer outside at my home in Madison, WI and only +14 in the garage, I'm too whimpy to install my rebuilt 3.6 into the C2. How cold was it in your garage in Burlington when you finished up last night at 11:00pm (according to your post)? I hope you still have all your digits! Great work, keep the pics and details coming!

mb911 02-04-2007 08:01 AM

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Originally posted by Don Settergren
With -12 on the thermometer outside at my home in Madison, WI and only +14 in the garage, I'm too whimpy to install my rebuilt 3.6 into the C2. How cold was it in your garage in Burlington when you finished up last night at 11:00pm (according to your post)? I hope you still have all your digits! Great work, keep the pics and details coming!
Heated garage baby!!!(actually 2 of them) I routed an exhaust tube outside the garage door so it was pretty warm.. inside 60 plus.. Thanks for all the encouragment along the way..

As for the sump mods if anyone is interested I am going to call on sump plates monday and see if I can buy maybe 5-10 of them and do the mod for the guys that want it.. I am guessing 80 ish with the welded tubing in place.. Let me know if anyone wants one

jcc911 02-04-2007 09:06 AM

Put me in line for one, thanks.

Lukesportsman 02-04-2007 10:20 AM

Yes, Ben sign me up. Just let me know the final cost so I can funds your way :) Funny, I'm working on the 3.0 and the $$ keeps going to the TT. Strange how that happens.

quattrorunner 02-04-2007 08:15 PM

Yup. I'll take one. Let me know when you get em.

mb911 02-05-2007 04:35 AM

ok So it looks like 3 poeple want them any more?? here are some quick pics from this morninghttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170682468.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170682483.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170682502.jpg

Facey 02-05-2007 08:40 AM

Looking good ben.

i take it you got it running at first off of boost? (N/A)

can't wait for some videos and action shots.


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