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CaptainCalf 01-25-2012 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by proffighter (Post 6516093)
I don't think it's a good idea to work on ball races, because they are hardened (in your case probably no longer).

They will have too much play which can cause failure and wear immediately..

Look here:

CV Joints, Part 1

Roland, I know it seems counter intuitive but it's my understanding that endurance racers detail all their cv joints in order to make them last longer. The new joints are too tight and the race surfaces are too rough from the factory which causes more friction and heat then they should and since they are so tight the ball brgs tend to stay in one position which wears groves in the races prematurely.

I only skimmed the surface using a light grit so most of the 1 to 1.2 mm hardened surface is still there. In order to control the amount I took off I didn't even fire up my air compressor, but instead used a cordless drill for the detail work. There wasn't much if any heat generated during the detailing either so any heat treating should also still be intact.

I'll be doing the same thing to the 3 new cv joints once they arriveSmileWavy

CaptainCalf 01-27-2012 04:22 PM

first axle finished
 
amazingly the new cv joints, which most folks prolly never tear down proir to install, were not only roughly machined but also very dirty...if you just packed these with grease and installed them you'd be asking for trouble...

inner race before detailing
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1327713418.jpg

inner race after detailing
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1327713488.jpg

finished axle has lots of flexibility after detailing w/o being sloppy
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1327713579.jpg

350HP930 01-27-2012 06:16 PM

I can't even begin to express how I admire your attention to detail Rick. So glad if I had to to give the 930 a new home it was yours. :D

CaptainCalf 01-27-2012 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 350HP930 (Post 6522249)
I can't even begin to express how I admire your attention to detail Rick. So glad if I had to to give the 930 a new home it was yours. :D

Thanks for passing the torch to me Tony. This has been a great project and I really appreciate you entrusting me to bring your baby back to lifeSmileWavy

JeremyD 01-27-2012 06:35 PM

I think it's a sickness...

CaptainCalf 01-27-2012 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremyD (Post 6522287)
I think it's a sickness...

LOL, this coming from a guy who makes his own carbon fiber parts...yes I have it bad but I'm in good company:p

CaptainCalf 01-28-2012 11:57 AM

good progress today!
 
Today I got most of the EFI parts needed to finish off the motor:D
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1327784087.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1327784113.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1327784125.jpg

inj#s 1-2-3 in
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1327784140.jpg

coil packs positioned & ready to mount
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1327784148.jpg

CaptainCalf 02-02-2012 10:13 AM

Bosch Liquid NTC Sensors
 
For whattever reason it seems that the standard metric size for a Bosch temperature sensor these days is M12x1.5, but of course our cases are tapped for M14x1.5 sensors.

New Bosch Sensor# 0280130026 M12x1.5
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1328209668.jpg

Old Bosch Sensor# 0280130037 spec'ed for an Audi A8 Quattro M14x1.5
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1328209739.jpg


I'm waiting for the spec sheet to come in from Germany for the M14 sensor to make sure it's a close match on resistance & temperature to the new one. If it is then it's a great solution for anybody who needs new oil temperature sensors for their EFI ECUs:)

PFM 02-02-2012 05:25 PM

Captain,

Please post the spec when you get it, if it is close to my Haltech I will know why I have not purchased it just yet.

sjf911 02-02-2012 05:51 PM

That would be great to have an M14 2-wire coolant sensor. Doesn't your ECU allow you to set your sensor temperature calibration curve?

CaptainCalf 02-02-2012 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sjf911 (Post 6533983)
That would be great to have an M14 2-wire coolant sensor. Doesn't your ECU allow you to set your sensor temperature calibration curve?

Yep, all sensors can be individually calibrated, but I'm trying to use a preset so I can save that stepSmileWavy

CaptainCalf 02-02-2012 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PFM (Post 6533915)
Captain,

Please post the spec when you get it, if it is close to my Haltech I will know why I have not purchased it just yet.

Will do!

CaptainCalf 02-03-2012 07:51 AM

another Bosch sensor that fits
 
Here's another one that will fits: bosch 0280130089
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1328287685.jpg

Requirements: M14x1.5 threads, NTC type liquid sensor and must be rated at approx. 2.5 kOhms at 20 deg C.

I don't have the spec sheets in for them yet, but both of these sensors seem to fit the bill:)

sjf911 02-03-2012 09:01 AM

So, is there a consensus among the EFI crowd about where the coolant sensor is best located on these engines? I have been using a Carrera head temp sensor but have not been all that happy with its performance under all circumstances.

CaptainCalf 02-03-2012 09:19 AM

I've seen them installed in the breather, but you'll get better readings in the oil stream, so I'd reccomend rt front where oem sensor was in rt cam oil stream

CaptainCalf 02-06-2012 10:02 AM

Bosch pn# 0 280 130 037 for oil temp
 
I received the specs today and this sensor will work perfectly with an EFI ECU!

PM me if you want the pdf files that include temp curve and drawings, but the main specs are:

-10 deg C min resistance = 8325 and max = 10572
+20 deg C min resistance = 2280 and max = 2736
+80 deg C min resistance = 287.7 and max = 359.1

Hope this info helpsSmileWavy

CaptainCalf 02-09-2012 10:46 AM

Intake air temp and flow sensors installed
 
Getting the harness & sensor mounting positions figured out slowly but surely:cool:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1328816755.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1328816768.jpg

CaptainCalf 02-09-2012 10:58 AM

Multi Gauge
 
Anybody using this PLX DM-6 Multi-gauge or have one they can recommend? Looking for somewhere to display AFRs, oil tremp & pressure.
ThanksSmileWavy
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1328817437.jpg

Spenny_b 02-09-2012 11:40 AM

Hi, I'm using Zeitronix...wanted something that could be completely discrete when needed, so did some tinkering with the ashtray (does anyone actually use them?!), per the pics below (snapped whilst I was fiddling with new stereo install, hence loose wires).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...r/0228476c.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...r/12828bbe.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...r/9d9fe481.jpg

Basically, removed the tray section from the front trim, then made a bracket to mount in its place, then fixed the Zeitronix to it. The trim rotates using some rotating "spigots" that I turned up on a lathe from some Nylatron I had kicking about...when rotated to hidden position, it'll be kept upwards using a magnetic fixing...not got around to making that yet.

Zeitronix also make a dash mounted gauge like the one you posted above ^^; IIRC you can run the full display like mine and the dash mounted one at the same time.

CaptainCalf 02-09-2012 12:59 PM

Spenny, nice use of the ash tray!


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