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				Considering Different Valves ?
			 
			Hi all,  I'am considering the potential to get mass out of the valve assemblies on my own car. I know and will apply the usual trick of titanium caps but have been wondering about sourcing and trying valves with smaller stems . Has anyone tried using say 7mm stem diameters ( obviously with smaller guides and seals ) . Any obvious pitfalls I am failing to see ? | ||
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			The most obvious pitfalls to me are cost and durablility.  I assume your car is air cooled.  Smaller valve stems will not conduct heat as well as the larger ones.  Much more likely to have a valve overheat and fail.  A bit more information as to the engine type and purpose would help. -Andy 
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			Sorry yes that would be helpful, 2.8 twin plug, headers "s" cams . only need 2k per year, good quality fuel with lots of lead (I use avgas). Not a racer just for my own pleasure ? Great work by extreme ther,e I'm not in that league  andy | ||
|  02-03-2012, 08:45 AM | 
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			You could try some of these. Del West Titanium with Casidiam coated stems. Note the 9mm stems with 3 groove Porsche retainers (old school) Weight comparison: Intake 105 vs 68 grams Exhaust 85 vs 58 grams The last engine we built with these ran 200 hrs before a freshen up and the valves and seats were perfect. Even the bearings in the GT3 Titanium rods were perfect.   
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| Kartoffelkopf | Quote: 
 Being done by Richard Chamberlain @ CTR Developments up nr. Huntingdon. Would recommend giving Richard or his son Matthew a call and buying through them. This is the stuff he's been using in his own (935) and customer race engines for years and years, so very well proven. | ||
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			Haasad, You might want to talk with Ferrea, they do some nice hollow stem valves. 
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