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What parts are unique to a Turbo motor?
What are the major parts that differ, for example, between a CIS 3,0, a Motronic 3,2, and a Turbo motor? I don't need exact part numbers, but just examples of the major systems that are different, and how are they different.
Examples I can think of Pistons Oil pump Isn't there some kind of turbocharger oil pump? Etc. Thanks!
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Piston squirters- more volume for 930
Heads use a different alloy, valves are different Turbo vs. N/A Cams (typical upgrade is to install SC cams) Head studs are all dilivar Clutch (240mm vs 225mm- until G50 came along) Crank pulleys are different Cylinders- fins or different alloys? Engine case scavenge line- different exhaust manifolds prompts different oil path Oil tank- has extra fitting for turbocharger scavenge pump 930 engine has an oil separator 930 has a different air injection system (exhaust)
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Here is a quick, from memory, comparison ![]()
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A few more for the list:
- The turbo (ho ho) - Wastegate - Recirc valve - The oil feed line to the turbo, from a feed on a gallery between the crankcase chimney and thermostat cover. - Oil drain tank for the turbo - The auxiliary turbo scavenge pump (at back of 1-3 cam) - Single 6-plug dizzy - later n/a's ran dual 6-plug dizzys - Single plug heads vs later heads that were twin plugged - The A/C pump stabiliser/support brace....interferes with N/A fuel rail...ask me how I now know. - Don't know if N/A CIS is the same as Turbo CIS....as you know, I'm not clever, or interested enough to understand the minutae of the Turbo CIS system....(reckon a Tourbillon movement would be easier to understand)...control valves, anti-runon valve, recirc valve, cold start valve, secondary air gate, WUR, frequency valve, cold start injector, thermo time switch.... - Intercooler (apart from the early Turbos) with boost pressure sender and fuel cutout switch - No knock sensors up to 964 (not sure if 993T ran them, quite possibly) - Very coarse (crude) crank position sensor, not the later 60-2 teeth pattern on the flywheel. - The 964T has its oil filter mounted behind cyl 2-4 where the N/A motors have their oil cooler matrix. - Exhaust valve covers are more rigid on Turbo - Engine mount bar; mine is different from the same vintage N/A item - Engine mount cover; N/A items (IIRC) have an access hole at the front to be able to turn over the crank, Turbos (well, certainly the 964 vintage) has a solid cover, no cutout. - Do N/A run two fuel pumps, front and rear? Sure I'll think of more whilst tinkering tomorrow! Cheers S
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