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Amstaff 05-03-2015 03:48 PM

Ok, that was easy. Clutch just needed to adjusted and the throttle came off at the bottom, both easy fixes.

So I took it for a ride and it ran really good. Carbs acted up a bit so I need to do some more work there.

Amstaff 05-03-2015 04:08 PM

Cost of Rebuild
 
I am sure I will miss something so I will add to it if I find something I missed.

964 Cams $300
ARP Headstuds $520
Super tech gasket set $305
ARP Rod bolts $275
Complete Rod rebuild $706
crank Polish $75
Chain Ramps $40
Rings $159
Rod Bearings $110
Main Bearings $200
Chains $92
Intermediate Bearings $22
Gasket set $66
3 angle Valve Job w/new springs, R-R spray bars and blast cam towers $1310
New motor mounts $100
Sealers $100+
Swepco tranny fluid $75
Tools $250
Oil $40 for break in
Oil $100 for first change
Misc bolts and nuts $100
Shipping parts $50

Total until I find something else $4,995

Let me know if there is something obviously missing.

Not bad for a do it yourself "Rookie Rebuild"

Amstaff 05-06-2015 04:32 PM

More tuning of the carbs and boy do they need help. Looks like a rebuild is in their future.

If the weather looks good I will drive it to work tomorrow.

Dpmulvan 05-07-2015 08:15 AM

Nice job! I'm right behind you

Dpmulvan 05-07-2015 08:16 AM

Where did you get your main bearings?

Amstaff 05-07-2015 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dpmulvan (Post 8612584)
Nice job! I'm right behind you


Feel free to contact me if you run into trouble or if just have a question.

Tom

Amstaff 06-12-2015 12:18 PM

Sprung a leak
 
Just a follow up

Suddenly developed a serious leak. Looked like it was coming from either the right chain housing or chain cover. Pulled the back bumper and warmed it up trying to find where it was coming from. Then noticed oil under the pressure sending unit. Pulled it and guess what? Steel washer against the block instead of an aluminum sealing washer. Found out by sticking a magnet to it.

New washers and BAM! No leak!

It is easy to mix them up in a gasket set so use your magnet and make sure you use the correct washers.

synperkaya 06-15-2015 07:37 AM

Sub....Great topic for a beginner

Amstaff 06-15-2015 07:51 AM

Had some help getting the Webers tuned and it runs perfect. Starts right up, idles great and runs smooth.

Can't wait to get a few miles on it so I can rev it a bit.

KevinB_NJ 08-02-2015 01:12 PM

Great thread, thank you for all of the documentation including the costs! Thinking I may be tackling this in the North East winter a few months away... Will definitely come back to this thread for help and pictures. Question: Now that it's been a few months, how many miles have you put on and have you noticed any more issues?

Amstaff 08-02-2015 01:43 PM

I have put probably 300-400 miles on it and it runs like a dream. Not enough miles on it yet to rev it up but I figure after 500 miles and a second oil change it will be 100% ready to go. If you run into any trouble or have a question I will be happy to help.

wprater 08-03-2015 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Amstaff (Post 8736687)
I have put probably 300-400 miles on it and it runs like a dream. Not enough miles on it yet to rev it up but I figure after 500 miles and a second oil change it will be 100% ready to go. If you run into any trouble or have a question I will be happy to help.

just about to start my 3.2ss build! going dual ignition, PMO46s, aggressive cam, and higher compression.. but your steps and photos will be a true help!! wish you were in Seattle, so we could exchange notes ;)

Amstaff 08-03-2015 02:26 PM

There isn't a huge difference in your build vs mine. Biggest difference will be checking the valve to piston clearance and ignition system.

Dual plug or single plug heads both go on the same way.

Cams both go in the same way, just timed to a different spec.

Let me know if I can help.

arbita1 08-04-2015 04:27 PM

I thought I had read in the beginning of your post you were not go to re-ring. But I see you included new rings in you cost update. Did you end up re-ringing the alusil pistons?

Amstaff 08-04-2015 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arbita1 (Post 8739740)
I thought I had read in the beginning of your post you were not go to re-ring. But I see you included new rings in you cost update. Did you end up re-ringing the alusil pistons?

My intention was to reuse the rings but after doing some homework I decided to replace them. I am not sure how to tell when they are completely broken in but they seem to seal well as the car has a ton of power and is extremely responsive.

I think it is kind of a crapshoot but the lower mileage on the motor probably gives you a better chance of the rings sealing. Mine was supposed to be from a 65,000 rolled over car so the cylinders were still in pretty good shape.

arbita1 08-05-2015 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amstaff (Post 8739791)
My intention was to reuse the rings but after doing some homework I decided to replace them. I am not sure how to tell when they are completely broken in but they seem to seal well as the car has a ton of power and is extremely responsive.



I think it is kind of a crapshoot but the lower mileage on the motor probably gives you a better chance of the rings sealing. Mine was supposed to be from a 65,000 rolled over car so the cylinders were still in pretty good shape.


It seems you are supposed to use different rings for these. However they are hard to fine and almost as much as a new set of Pistons if you do. It seems others have had success so far using the typical rings. Hopefully same for you. Thanks for the info.


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Amstaff 08-05-2015 05:39 PM

Rings were purchased from our sponsor. The rings were recommended by them and seem to work well.

xjoegtix 08-05-2015 05:44 PM

Thank you so much for helping us with your thread. Really helped me a lot


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Amstaff 11-26-2018 02:46 PM

So just a final follow up. It has been three years now and the motor still purrs like a kitten.

Look for a either a stroked 2.2 rebuild or a reseal of a 3.2 in the coming year.

chrisbalich 11-27-2018 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amstaff (Post 10263978)
So just a final follow up. It has been three years now and the motor still purrs like a kitten.

Look for a either a stroked 2.2 rebuild or a reseal of a 3.2 in the coming year.

how do you like the power (and powerband) of the engine?
i was planning to build a 3.2SS for my 79SC, but i find the cost is getting away from me at an alarming rate. i can get a set of 9.3 P&Cs for pretty cheap, refurb & rering them, buy 964 cams, and finish my EFI for less than the cost of 98mm P&Cs. my car is pretty light and will only get lighter. i don't need world-beating power, but it absolutely must be sporty enough to hang in the twisty-bits. my 8.5 P&Cs are not going back in for love or money and i am giving serious consideration to saving thousands by going less aggressive with the engine.
Thank you for your time and for this wonderful thread.


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