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Gapless Piston Rings ,Yes? No?

Please outline advantages disadvantages of gapless piston rings.
decisions. decisions.
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I thought Henry would jump in here with a few others and offer some opinions and insights.
I have not ever tried a set...they sound like a good idea..
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I've used them (in the second compression groove) since 1978 with excellent success in several engines.

Excellent leakdowns and reduced windage from the oil tank.
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Loss of ring control as rpm increases (ring flutter) is the possible disadvantage.
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Thanx a BUNCH !
Some info is better then no info.
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I experimented with gapless 15-20 years ago.
My experience is with Total Seal only and that was rather negative.
They modify a stock ring to create a groove for a secondary ring which over time will end up rotating (rings rotate by design) creating the same gap you had before.
The other issue I had with the TS rings was a relative low quality. I believe they use a Hastings ring and matching these rings with Nikasil is a challenge.
I use Goetz rings whenever possible.

A quick rant: I noticed that this thread has a one star rating. This seems to be a way say a thread has no value. This has got to stop. Every question has value and if you are board with the content just move on. Rating a thread with one post with one star will tend to stifle legitimate questions.
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Thanx guys.
Its a lot of work to experiment..I always have had low low leak dwn rates, even on a couple i thought that were going to be ...bad.
I think i will stick with tried and proven.
Thanx for the insight.

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