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Does live streaming TV make the DVR obsolete?

Getting ready to dump Dish network so we can have WIFI.
Comparing ROKU to the local cable box ROKU comes out ahead.
So plan is to have high speed internet brought into the house, plug it into (cable company approved) Modem with WIFI, plug ROKU into modem, connect ROKU to home theater.

I'm sure if there is any fault with that plan you guys will point it out to me.

Thanks in advance.

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That depends. If you’re one of those people that gets into a series and needs to see every episode, then you’ll likely need the DVR.

Many TV shows only make a certain number of episodes available for a certain amount of days.


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Old 09-26-2018, 12:41 PM
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Live streaming would still require a DVR to record and watch later. On-demand streaming really does hint at making a DVR a non-needed item...

Personally in your boat I'd look at building a media center computer wiht lots of redundant storage and multiple capture cards, and grab all of your available OTA channels for watching...
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No way would I give up our DVR.

To record movies and shows and watch at MY schedule is wonderful. Some stuff is just not available easily otherwise. I watched the vast majority of the 24 hours of LeMans, and the three free practices, qualifying and the race for F1 for the season. There are some good TV shows out there and a LOT of pure garbage to skip.

My wife is a big sports fan. Football in particular. She was recording four games that were on at once. She would watch one until she caught up to real time, switch to another game and fast forward through the commercials of course, and the penalties, and the other standing around. Just watch the plays. Then catch up, switch games and do it again. Watching a golf game she can skip all the BS and watch the important parts.
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Many services ( I have Playstation Vue) have a "dvr" function-they record everything and tag stuff that you "record". For example, mine saves every f1 and indy car race.
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Also, one of the greatest benefits of DVR (almost more than being able to watch when you're ready) is the ability to forward past commercials. Some streaming services don't allow you to forward through commercials. You can pay some services to never give you commercials and the services that do include commercials usually have far fewer than regular broadcast or cable TV.
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The missus and I just don't watch that much TV. We can find enough to watch via Netflix or Netflix and Amazon. We don't care about sports. I'd like to watch more autosports, but even when I had cable, I rarely did.

Some weeks we may watch 1 hour a day, 3 or 4 days during the work week, some weeks we may not watch any TV Mon-Fri. We'll probably watch a few hours Sat and Sun, but not always.
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Old 09-26-2018, 01:58 PM
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The missus and I just don't watch that much TV. We can find enough to watch via Netflix or Netflix and Amazon. We don't care about sports. I'd like to watch more autosports, but even when I had cable, I rarely did.

Some weeks we may watch 1 hour a day, 3 or 4 days during the work week, some weeks we may not watch any TV Mon-Fri. We'll probably watch a few hours Sat and Sun, but not always.
This is us which makes me wonder if we need a DVR (we have Netfix and Amazon Prime), yes, I have probably 70-80 hours of recorded DVR material (mostly concerts and cooking shows) but maybe it is time to downsize and let all that crap go.

Either way I have to do a deal with the devil (COX cable) for high speed internet or pay through the nose for their cable box/DVR.

Edit to add, currently using Dish network and their DVR
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I’m sticking with dvds.
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Old 09-26-2018, 02:47 PM
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I now see my faux pas, should have posted - does video on demand make the DVR obsolete...

fortunately I still have a string quartet, a couple jugglers, and a dancing bear to entertain me.
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I’m sticking with dvds.
I am sticking with LaserDiscs!
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I’m sticking with dvds.
Why not go back to VHS. I bet the tapes are cheap now.
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If I own a movie on dvd i own it.

You guys are just renting. A director can re edit a film and ruin it. A liscensing dispute can get a film pulled off the net. A film can be so obscure it never appears on Netflix. A film can suddenly be declared politically incorrect and get pulled.
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I am sticking with LaserDiscs!
Oh you laugh! I was trying to get a Laser Disc to play this morning! (here at work).

I am leaning more towards jettisoning the DVR and simplify to just Netflicks, Amazon, and whatever other free video on demand we can get. As said we only have two or three nights a week where we sit and watch TV.
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If I own a movie on dvd i own it.

You guys are just renting. A director can re edit a film and ruin it. A liscensing dispute can get a film pulled off the net. A film can be so obscure it never appears on Netflix. A film can suddenly be declared politically incorrect and get pulled.
Do you sit and watch broadcast TV? That is all I'm talking about replacing, I still have a BD/DVD player and a collection of DVD's
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The missus and I just don't watch that much TV. We can find enough to watch via Netflix or Netflix and Amazon. We don't care about sports. I'd like to watch more autosports, but even when I had cable, I rarely did.

Some weeks we may watch 1 hour a day, 3 or 4 days during the work week, some weeks we may not watch any TV Mon-Fri. We'll probably watch a few hours Sat and Sun, but not always.
^Same in my house. Never have had cable TV/Satellite, or DVR, and never will.
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I donot stream

but can a normal HD in a computer record a stream to play at a later date/time ?
or is there a code problem like DRM to prevent that recording ?
as most DVR's are build in a cable box owned by the cable corprats
or the old tivo's that were subscription deals
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Do you sit and watch broadcast TV? That is all I'm talking about replacing, I still have a BD/DVD player and a collection of DVD's


I was being snarky. And had to respond when others responded snakily. we live in the boonies without good internet. My wife misses Netflix desperately.

But everything I said is true. The Cosby show is an example. A cheesey example. If you don’t have it on disc it’s gone. Memory holed. Probably happens to other stuff all the time. Try to find a copy of a bugs bunny cartoon from 1940 the way it appeared in 1940. We just don’t notice.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zaX1Xd3SP4

the first bugs bunny cartoon from 1940

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or just use another search engine

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Unless they have on demand content, then you'd want DVR. Directvnow added a DVR service that I have not used and can't really speak to but I did use the Dish Network DVR service when my kids were little and when I used to watch NASCAR but would have missed a race.

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