Dystopian Future

[red-beard]

ASME code approved welders can earn $50/hr here in Houston.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by scottmandue

Yes, everyone can carry on proposing how technology is going to save the world but this is a perfect example. Sure we can make water but it takes a huge amount of energy.

We will always need mechanics & techs to fix the robots!

Nope, robot mechanics will fix the robots. The only thing that we need are programmers to program the robots.

I work in IT. It's a small part of IT, but important. You guys all know the computers and servers and cell phones and everything on the Internet that hold the information and talk to each other. I configure/run/support the stuff that allows all of that stuff to talk to each other. My job can be done from anywhere, but you've always needed someone skilled to do it. Well, my job is starting to become a programming gig. That way we can program things to monitor themselves and fix themselves and just let us know (at least, that's the theory). Things are changing in a big way.

[scottmandue]

Originally Posted by masraum

Nope, robot mechanics will fix the robots. The only thing that we need are programmers to program the robots.

I work in IT. It's a small part of IT, but important. You guys all know the computers and servers and cell phones and everything on the Internet that hold the information and talk to each other. I configure/run/support the stuff that allows all of that stuff to talk to each other. My job can be done from anywhere, but you've always needed someone skilled to do it. Well, my job is starting to become a programming gig. That way we can program things to monitor themselves and fix themselves and just let us know (at least, that's the theory). Things are changing in a big way.

Do you want skynet? Because that is how you get skynet!

[sammyg2]

Where exactly is Dystopia?

[epbrown]

Originally Posted by sammyg2

Where exactly is Dystopia?

It's a pretty large country, but the capital is PARF.

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by sammyg2

Where exactly is Dystopia?

https://www.dystopianstate.com/

[Fly Mach .86]

Originally Posted by varmint

I can remember when the hole in the ozone layer was supposed to kill us all. And shouldn’t the rain forest have been destroyed twenty times over by now?

You would have a different attitude about the ozone layer if you lived in Australia where the hole in the layer was huge and cases of skin cancer was increasing. When CFC's were banned the hole began to repair itself. "Ignore the science at your peril".

[Fly Mach .86]

Originally Posted by red-beard

Just like the flying car (Whoops, Terrafugia ), the dystopian future never seems to get here.

Space 1999
Blade Runner
Soylent Green
Just about every Heinlein novel

They all predict a devolving society and a crashed future, etc. But it never happens.

The UN panel on Global Warming keeps up the doom and gloom, but we never seem to get there.

All the new programs keep saying how bad things are, but the crime stats for the last 20+ years show crime down.

Everyone has a phone/computer in their hands!

AI has not (yet) destroyed the world

There is LESS trash, cleaner rivers and most people generally care about the environment.

Yes, yes. We do a a reduced amount of civility. And I see a serious lack of civic duty and virtue, not to mention crazy people attacking people in the streets.

Is it in Seattle and San Francisco only?

LESS trash? There is a patch of floating plastic in the Pacific Ocean about the size of Oklahoma and it is getting bigger. (But if you don't see it, it doesn't concern you right)? The only reason rivers are cleaner is because the steel industry and others who have dumped $hit into those rivers have shut down or reduced production. Whether you believe global warming is a thing or not, the krap that they say is causing it is ruining the atmosphere. Many think of the atmosphere as a HUGE bubble of air surrounding the planet. Not quite. Try this, the next time you eat an apple, slice it in half, look at the skin of the apple. That's relatively how thick the atmosphere is around the planet.

[cstreit]

Originally Posted by varmint

Don’t read science fiction. Read history. Just off the top of my head,


Rhodesia/Zimbabwe
Venezuela
Cuba
China
Cambodia
Germany, pretty much all of continental Europe in the 20th century.
Russia
Detroit

Everything is fine. Until it isn’t.

Your examples are true - but every group goes through a lifecycle. Isolated examples do not indicate an overall trend.... Rome had its day, so did Germany, Detroit, etc..

They don't really recover - but they do turn into something else...eventually.

[JavaBrewer]

Originally Posted by scottmandue

Do you want skynet? Because that is how you get skynet!

Kinda freaky to watch.

[Tobra]

Elliot, you need to unwad your knickers

Originally Posted by sammyg2

Where exactly is Dystopia?

Just West of Nevada

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by Fly Mach .86

LESS trash? There is a patch of floating plastic in the Pacific Ocean about the size of Oklahoma and it is getting bigger.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/10/05/great-pacific-garbage-patch-is-a-myth-warn-experts-as-survey-sho/

Originally Posted by Fly Mach .86

The only reason rivers are cleaner is because the steel industry and others who have dumped $hit into those rivers have shut down or reduced production.

Nope. The original EPA requirements from the early 1970's did wonders. Just doing tertiary water treatment means we're not dumping billions of tons per year of poop into the water ways.

Originally Posted by Fly Mach .86

Whether you believe global warming is a thing or not, the krap that they say is causing it is ruining the atmosphere. Many think of the atmosphere as a HUGE bubble of air surrounding the planet. Not quite. Try this, the next time you eat an apple, slice it in half, look at the skin of the apple. That's relatively how thick the atmosphere is around the planet.

Yeah...