New 992

[island911]

Originally Posted by pwd72s

offered for comparison purposes...

Well played!

I don't hate the new, but ... meh, on styling.

[aigel]

I like the light bar across the back - very 993 / impact bumper. Overall, I think this design is the best waterpumper to date.

[onewhippedpuppy]

I agree with Craig, I find the design rather generic. Not ugly, and not that far away from the 991, but generic. Tell a kid to sketch a new sports car and it will look something like that.

[sand_man]

Originally Posted by pwd72s

offered for comparison purposes...

I get the message, but it hasn't even been a fruit to fruit (apples to oranges) unfair comparison in so many years, that it isn't even worth mentioning; hell we're not even in the same genus/species! I'm a purist, but my hard lines have softened over the years and I've finally come to accept the "new" cars for what they are.

[cairns]

Not going to rush out to replace the 991 anytime soon that's for sure.

[sand_man]

I'll be curious to see what 991.2 prices start to do in the next few years.

[Deschodt]

Those of us not stuck in the air-cooled era will probably get used to it - one thing that they made even worse IMO is the rear spoiler. When up, the car has looked unfinished and ugly for a while now, but the 992 extends the moveable spoiler all the way to the rear fenders now and seriously destroys the rear look of the car when it's up... Looks like a moulin rouge dancer lifting her skirt - minus the good legs...

I wonder if they will manage a ducktail on this model given the width of the thing...

[Zeke]

Seems like Porsche is prying open a slot for the Cayman to be the 'sports car'. That's likely where I'd be headed if I was buying new. That or a Boxster. MG are they handsome anymore.

[sand_man]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Seems like Porsche is prying open a slot for the Cayman to be the 'sports car'. That's likely where I'd be headed if I was buying new...

Agree.

[Porchdog]

Originally Posted by kach22i

Front Trunk

F-trunk

Funk...........I think.

Phrunk in SE PA today

Reisentoters annual Phil-a-Phrunk tonight.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Seems like Porsche is prying open a slot for the Cayman to be the 'sports car'. That's likely where I'd be headed if I was buying new. That or a Boxster. MG are they handsome anymore.

That's really been the case for several generations now. The 911 has continued to edge towards GT with each new generation, while the Cayman/Boxster has kept the sport car focus. I agree with you on the looks too, both are stunning cars. Though I'm really not a huge fan of the turbo 4-cylinder.

[sand_man]

If nothing else, maybe it's my love of pro sports car racing that has softened my hard lines with regards to Porsche 911 evolution. The factory can't bring a knife to a gun fight! Everything has progressed with the competition!!!! No doubt this is a dedicated, factory race car, but it can't possibly make sense for Porsche to build the mid-engine RSR on a "longhood" platform for the current GTLM series!!!!! So the whole cycle continues lockstep: what they learn from racing, makes its way to the street, the street cars evolve, which ultimately yields better tubs for "production based" racing. I'm not explaining it correctly, but if it means that I get to see this at the races, then I try to accept what's on the dealer lot...

https://www.porsche.com/usa/motorsportandevents/motorsport/racingcars/991-911-rsr/featuresandspecs/

[kach22i]

Keep in mind, that on American roads little cars get no respect and even less so with more people driving some kind of truck now.

I'm not advocating larger sports cars, just saying the way things are.

Americans in general value size over other factors, yes there are many exceptions but it is a tide we swim against and not with.

[Deschodt]

Looking down the road at the 992 line, I think I've reached Peak 911 and will probably never be able to justify buying another.... used to be unless you were on minimum wage, you could afford a used porsche for not much more than a new camry. That's no longer the case since oldies have gone stratospheric and in my experience modern ones are introducing too much dealer centric tech...

Nowadays, most 991-992 will be PDK. PDK is $15K to replace and you can only do it at a dealer. An engine is $20K now... And the 992 will shortly introduce hybridization, and I fear no independent will be able to deal with this... Imagine buying one of those puppies new for >>$100K and looking down the road at forking out replacement costs on all that tech... Just the new screens are gonna be serious money when they die one month out of warranty...

For me anyway, from now on it's oldies in the garage and a modern appliance in the driveway, under warranty or lease.. My 991.1 is very likely my last modern Porsche... naturally aspirated and already largely unusable in modern traffic...

[AFC-911]

I wish we could see the Flying Lizards livery on those new RSRs...

[sand_man]

Originally Posted by AFC-911

I wish we could see the Flying Lizards livery on those new RSRs...

Oh man, me too!!

[Eric Coffey]

Originally Posted by Rodsrsr

The front and rear look aweful, sides are nice.

Yeah, it's pretty bad IMO. Looks like the bastard offspring of a Pontiac Aztec and a Cylon:

[RSBob]

Glen, buddy, your age is showing. It would be “nifty” if you just rolled with it since it now part of the lexicon. (And yes, the rear trunk is called the trunk.)

[jrdavid68]

Originally Posted by Por_sha911

The Porsche of today is not the company or cars that I fell in love with back in the 1980's. Faster? yes. More comfort? yes. More modern and high tech? yes. Stir passion for the car and loyalty to the brand? I wish I could say otherwise but, no. They lost me. I don't go look at the new cars at intro, don't go to gatherings, don't read about the specs... There is no connection for me. No soul. I'm definitely not going to bond with a new car by working on it (unless you call a wash and a wax "working") like I can and do with my `87.

Maybe it is just me but I feel that the modern Porsche's are wonderful, high priced appliances just like many other brands. Maybe a little better than some but no distinction, no soul. The Porsche of today has become SUV's, 4 door luxo sedans, and oh, by the way, I think we also have a sports car around here somewhere. Next will be pickup trucks. I know "its nothing personal, just business" but I don't feel a connection to a business.

Oh and to answer your question: the 992 looks bland and boring.

Now get off my lawn!

[95avblm3]

Wow! Tough crowd!

I'll be a voice of dissent amongst the ranks here. I like it. I especially like the rear end. To me it's an evolution in styling of the 991. I like that the taillights are narrower, I like the grille. I especially like the cockpit and am glad to see somewhat of a carryover of the "glass-cockpit" look that was introduced first in the Panamera and is working its way through the product line. To me, it says modern jetliner meet car... and they did it in the 911 while still respecting the traditional 5 gauge layout in front of the driver. I also like the throwback tach needle.

The only negative comment I have is that the big black plastic front grilles will have to grow on me. It seems to be a little too large... perhaps its that the is a more pronouned section in the center, where it was much smaller on the 991. Hopefully there will be a sport design (or whatever they call it) front bumper option.

The '70s and '80s are over folks. It's time to move into the future.