Yo, that be green color?

If they are renters then the landlord probably pays the garbage. I’d start putting some of my garbage in their bins after they are emptied. Maybe that would make them at least gather them up sooner.

Its not even about the details of the problem, trash trash cans etc. There is a nice thread here on OT that talks about mixing concrete, put some wet concrete in their empty cans so when they go to move it back to their house it is very heavy , or fill it with manure (!) but at the same time they will win if you stoop to their level. An they might just leave them there. Those TYPE of people ! Damn, they must do so many things wrong, if they do this wrong and don't see it or don't care and just do it on purpose. These type of neighbors live in my building too, in NYC..I could give you a long list of things they do which is similarly maddening. It's passive-aggressive and anything we see as normal behavior behavior can be corrupted by this crap. We used to call them :"Capitalists of Space" since they leave their personal belongings all over the public space : in hallways, the entrance way etc. The landlord has even taken them to court about it. Honestly, I feel bad for the LL sometimes. They leave half eaten sandwiches and coffee cups around for chrissakes! Only thing that makes me feel better is I can say: "Glad I am not you!" But not to their faces.... Yet.

Right, the point I was trying to get to.

Do they know it does not cost them anything?

They may have come from a a place where it has always cost them and they think they are getting over.

Next time I saw them I'd simply tell them "you know, if you are worried about the cost don't, leaving it front of your house won't cost you a penny."

If a rental, do you know the landlord? Maybe a word to him/her?

Owner doesn't pay anything. Its all on them. Sewer and trash is on the same bill. I own the house upstream, right next to them and that's rented to a very nice single mom with her small kid. They pay for everything. This is a house, so there's no other tenant but them. There are only three renters on our block and everyone is pretty decent folks that take care of their properties. Let me add, they have a leave blower. Take a wild guess where the leaves go when they start using that damn thing? I don't say anything because that doesn't happen often, once a month, so I let the wind take care of it or my gardener who blows and clean up after himself. Why do selfish people suck. Between those two, once should know better you would think?

Again, when you've confronted them, did you ask WHY they are doing it?
What do they say???

Why not get a couple tubes of silicon and glue them shut after they have been emptied.

In a day or so, they will discover that they can’t be opened.

If they get new cans and park them at your place, do it again.

Or better yet, hide them when the garbage truck comes and then put them back afterwards. Let them discover that their cans aren’t getting emptied and ***** to the sanitation department... I’m sure it will come out that they are putting the cans in front of somebody else’s place and maybe this is the reason...

Landlord is a piece or work. A year ago, he allow the building of a staircases leading to an outdoor shower on my side of the property, about 5' onto my side. I informed him about it, and his answer is, "How do you know is on your side? Even if it is, you are not using that spot anyway, so why's it that a big deal?" Surveying is being done next Tuesday. Rent is high, 4300 bucks on that damn house, so the owner kisses his ass. Its hillside with no real boundaries between houses but a couple of markers on the sidewalk.

Selfish people suck because you let them.

They blow their leaves onto your property and don't say or do anything about it?

And you wonder why they continue to put their pails in front of your house?

Not trying to be a dick here but you are enabling their bad behavior.

After a year? I'd flip out and throw them in their front yard.

If you have the space, move all the cans into your garage (post pick-up, of course).

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The best answer was upstream in the thread.

Remove the garbage cans (preferably when they are empty).

As in...put them in a truck (your truck - any truck) and haul them away.

No cans = problem solved.

If they get new cans and do it again - take those cans away.

No cans = problem solved.

Can you relocate there cans to the far side of there lot and make it more of a pain for them to pick up?

I think it is hard to win this one, some people are just messed up and it might get way out of hand quickly, I like the idea of gluing the lid shut but it will probably come back at you. Can always just fill with water and the city won't pick it up, just drill a small hole so it is empty later.

Start taking soil samples and tell them there is high levels of Radon gas or lead and hopefully they will move.

When I was much younger my next door neighbour was a similar pain, he was eventually fired from the post office, not easy to do up here, but you could not win a war against someone like that. Hey what is your neighbour name maybe he moved out there?

We had a similar situation. I called the garbage company and said I had somehow ended up with extra cans and could they please remove them. Next day my neighbor came over and asked if I knew what happened to his cans. "Sorry, didn't notice anything." The next couple of weeks the cans were at their place and then once again in front of our place. Called the garbage company again and had them picked up. After that they always put them at their place.

The thing that stinks is if you're a normal, considerate person you can never understand why people act like this. Somehow you end up feeling like the bad guy.

Had another neighbor that would park in front of our house in order to leave the spot in front of their house free.

Moved to the country 2 years ago and don't miss those city quirks. :)

Don't forget to take pictures of the approach, the getaway, the northwest corner, the southwest corner and that's not to mention the aerial photography.

I've done this at my old house twice. Agree problem solved and a very clear message. Just make sure they are not home when you do it.

LA is Waste Management. They allow one can swap for each of the three in a one year period for damaged, worn or bins that have gone awol . A few times in a year the end user will pay. Good place to start.

The other thing is call every pizza delivery place in a 5 mile radius from a caller ID blocked phone. Order about 30 extra large pizzas delivered at the same time to your neighbor, say you will pay cash. After you make the last call go to the store and do a lot of grocery shopping. Keep the receipt, you may need it later.

If they're rollcarts like this...

...they're probably city or county property.

You might wanna check before you go hauling them off somewhere... you could be inviting a bigger problem.


A simpler solution was mentioned earlier in the thread IIRC; next time they roll their carts out in front of your property, go out and roll them to the far edge of their lot so they'll have a longer trip to get them after pick up.

Or maybe roll them even further up the street and put them on the other side of the street. Here's where we need a drawing... or a zoomed in Google Earth image of your street to offer suggestions.

Do that for the next 3-4 pick ups. If that doesn't do the job, the brain trust can reconvene for reconsideration.

I think calling the cops is the right answer. If they're within their legal rights to do this, you're just escalating this, which can backfire on you. If they're within their legal rights, then you can put your cans in front of their house. If the cops agree it's uncool, I have to believe they would willing to have an officer knock on their door and talk to them. That might be the most effective thing.

You may be able to recover damages:
https://www.realestatelawyers.com/resources/real-estate/title-boundary/claiming-adverse-possession-property-encroachment
"Remedying an encroachment may require legal action, such as paying the property owner for use of the property or a court-ordered removal of the encroachment structure."


You do have a limited time:
https://www.wagensellerlaw.com/statute-limitations-california-quiet-title-lawsuits/
"The CA Statute of Limitations Depends on the Underlying Claim

California actually does not have a specific statute of limitations for quiet title actions but courts have provided guidance on when such claims must be brought. Instead, the courts have said that they will look at the underlying legal cause of action that the quiet title claim is based on in determining what time limit will apply.

In the 2015 case of Salazar v. Thomas, the California Court of Appeals ruled that the likely statute of limitations that would apply to various underlying causes of actions were:

5 years when the claim was based on adverse possession
4 years when the claim is based on cancellation of an instrument
3 years when the claim is based on fraud or mistake"

Why don't you move the cans back in front of their house then park your cars in front of your house. Put your cans farthest away from their house.

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Call the city/trash company to see if they have any regulations on how the trash cans are handled.

iirc- when I get a new trash can from the city/company/etc, there is usually a list somewhere of rules-website etc.. like no flammables. Roll up to curb on trash day. Do not store on street, etc...

If there is any literature from the company clarifying this, all the better. Perhaps even worth a call to city disposal. I'm sure they've had this happen before. See what they say.

EDIT- bonus points if you can work "oscar the grouch" for example "I spoke with Oscar down at the city dump... he said..."

I would bet the neighbors are not doing anything "illegal"... just like a person parking in front of your house (instead of theirs). But don't listen to me....listen to Baz.

....no cans, no problem.

I must be missing something here, but I would simply take their trash and leave it in the middle of their driveway. Upright, the first time. After that, I wouldn't be too careful.

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Les

I think Curt had a winner on page 1. No cans no problem.

Is it possible they put their drug paraphernalia in there and if the police were to ever search the trash they could claim it was yours? Seems highly unlikely, but people doing drugs don’t think logically all the time.

Either have the county take them away because you have "extras" or when you take your empty ones in, take theirs to the end of the street.

No on has mentioned IEDs...until now :)

They are crapping on you because it’s easy.

I would move their bins every day. Make it more a pain for them to retrieve than it is to place in front of your house.

The leaves, I’d blow them right back right away every time and I’d probably include several neighbors leaves as well.

The stair thing, the minute the survey says it’s on your property have at it with your crew and all the power tools you can muster.

They don’t respect you, no need to worry about offending them.

A friend of mine had a truly mentally ill neighbor who came over one day with a pistol in his hand while my friend was on a ladder working on the eaves. Popped him right on top of the head with a hammer, which went into his skull until the handle stopped it from going deeper. The guy recovered and never was trouble again.

So sometimes things work out well. I wouldn't do anything to escalate this that's illegal.

I know about that, that's why my property lines are getting market next week

Their cans are moved almost weekly back onto their side of the sidewalk by me in the morning before they go off to work. They don't get the message or don't want to.

Cans do not sit on the street, out streets are super narrow only one car can pass through so cans go on the sidewalk.

It looks like there isn't much I can do about it. "Assholds will be assholds"

That's exactly what I am going to do but I am going to give them one phone call and a short message.

God, I love the internet...:rolleyes:

Lots of dumb advice here, (and a small amount of good). Regardless of whether the trash bins belong to the city, the sanitation company or the home owner, they are expensive and when someone takes cell phone video of you hauling them away in your truck, (which is guaranteed to happen in 2018), you will be the one in handcuffs and the neighbors will be laughing their dicks off when they haul you away.

Then we'd have another Joe Bob type thread asking for lawyer referrals, "how is Venezuela this time of year", etc... :rolleyes:

I believe that the neighbors are rude but I think that there is more to the story. Do you live in a cul-de-sac or is there some other physical barrier or reason why it is difficult or impossible for the truck to pick them up in front of their place?

A lot of people commenting possibly do not understand that human beings do not get out of a truck and pick up the trash, it is all automated...IOW, a truck pulls up next to the bins and mechanical claws grab them and lift/empty them. Where the neighbors are leaving their bins is not Jeff's property, it's on a public street. It may be rude but there is nothing illegal about placing your bins in the street in front of neighbor's house for pick-up. Lot's of people do it here if it's easier for the truck to collect it.

A photo of the street in front of both houses would shine quite a bit of light on this drama.

You might have just answered your own question. Don't move them onto their side of the sidewalk, move them to the street.

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Calling the cops would definitely backfire, legally. They would explain to both that what the neighbors are doing is not illegal and they would then be pissed at him for calling cops and keep doing it forever.

I suggested calling the cops (as did URY914) to see if there's anything illegal about the neighbors putting the cans in front of look's house. If it's legal, I seriously doubt they're going to knock on the neighbor's door- it's for look's information. If there's something inappropriate about it, a visit by a cop or two might straighten out the neighbor.

Stealing cans, having them picked up, gluing them shut, dumping trash on the neighbor's property is just going to get look into trouble, as you said.

Glue, hauling away, throwing trash back isn't my style. Now blowing up siht (or their house)... We should talk talking

Cops are just going to laugh at me.