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look 171 12-12-2018 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Gogar (Post 10282157)
is this in a culdesack or a straight line street?

Is everyone street-parked or are there very few cars in the street?

Is there a possibility that WM asked for the cans to be located together for speed of service?

Give us some pics.


If you do any kind of anger-based escalation you will absolutely lose, in ways you haven't even thought about yet.

Light hearted comedy-style escalation might work, but it's a coin flip.

Will do next Monday evening or Tue morning because they put the cans out around midnight.

No I have no anger issues and know for a fact yelling don't solve anything except for the time when this drunk btich open my van door with my kids in the back trying to climb in thinking its funny.

look 171 12-12-2018 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab Jr (Post 10282161)
The neighbors have changed and you still have problems

Maybe the neighbors aren't the problem here ???? ;)

Hahaha, no real problems with them with the exception of the trash cans. We used to btich about them renting out half their house through AirBB. They advertised it as a great shooting location due to being in the hills and the vast view of the canyon. Every couple of weeks, there was a fooking film crew that took up all the parking, block traffic and lay their siht all over into my little front yard. They had a kid, that stopped real fast. All the other neighbor were really sick of the Airbb

Por_sha911 12-12-2018 08:02 PM

All the suggestions that are illegal only put you in jeopardy.
I say go and politely yet bluntly ask "WHY do you do this?" and stand there and wait for an answer. Don't say another word. Just stand there, stare at them and wait for an answer.

If that doesn't work, then the following week, politely move their cans back in front of their yard. Now, if you accidentally tip over a can in such a way that garbage spills into their yard... Oh gosh, sorry. Let them pick it up.

KFC911 12-12-2018 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 10282522)
Since I know what the answer is on calling cops here in busy LA, I thought what the hell, called the police station 20 min ago. Here's the answer.

You should've asked for Barney Fife...even Andy is too busy.

OK....so removing the cans, etc. is a no-go (for you....sometimes I just don't GAF and do schit anyways....call Barney if'n ya want to)...they'd get the same response if they called ;).

Start rolling their toters way down the street....EVERY single time. Nothing illegal there....no words, no confrontation...no schit.

Good luck Jeff...you've tolerated their bs WAY more than I would....and are a "good guy" too.... way more gooder than I are :).

wdfifteen 12-12-2018 09:33 PM

For a fee I’ll send MrsWD out to handle it. She’ll take then a cake, some cookies and sit down with them. In 2 hours she’ll know their life stories, names of all their pets and relatives dead and living, and have them asking if they can take your trash out and put it in front of their house. Oh, and bring the emptied cans back to your house for you.
She has a gift.

aigel 12-12-2018 09:57 PM

Have you evaluated if you may not be overreacting and letting this build up? Is this really that big a deal?

If it really is, then make an unsolicited offer 20% above market to buy the house and kick them out. Then you can pick your neighbors. That's what I'd do if I really cared.

G

unclebilly 12-12-2018 10:27 PM

Ok so maybe you didn’t like my idea to glue them shut...

How about this then:

If you have a good idea when the garbage truck shows up, go throw some nuggets of dry ice in his bin a few minutes before hand. When the garbage truck shows up, they will be emitting quite a fog (probably more prevalent on a rainy or damp morning). Bets are that the sanitation truck won’t load the ‘smoking’ bins. It sounds like it is perfectly legal to add to their garbage cans.

Alternatively, put in about a quart of polyurethane foam and let it expand. Before long, the usable volume of the cans willl be greatly reduced.

look 171 12-12-2018 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by aigel (Post 10282558)
Have you evaluated if you may not be overreacting and letting this build up? Is this really that big a deal?

If it really is, then make an unsolicited offer 20% above market to buy the house and kick them out. Then you can pick your neighbors. That's what I'd do if I really cared.

G

Well George, no one is hurt by it, but my wife and I sure dislike looking out the kitchen window seeing their cans on our sidewalk. My biggest PITA is when the garbage truck dumps their usual over flowing trash, some of it gets dumped on my yard or curb. It aint my wife that's picking that up, its me. I often drag their cans back over their side every Tuesday morning before I leave the house. On days I leave after 10, truck's already dumped so I drag their cans back over only because I don't want to look at it and their cans are filthy and stinky. Its never gets washed.

I tried buying that house before the current owner somehow purchased it. I offer over the asking and my offer was more then his when he sell it short during the last recession. Believe me, I tried like hell to buy it. I didn't get it. Now, he's sandwiched between us, not that it makes any difference.

KFC911 12-13-2018 01:05 AM

How much is it worth to you? Evidently worth a bit of $. Try bribing them....seriously. I'll give you $ to stop. Not a course of action I would pursue, but it just might be a cheap way to buy the results you seek ...hth. On an installment plan....dangle a carrot.

If not....IEDs :)

sammyg2 12-13-2018 05:54 AM

Triple-dog dare one of the bratty neighborhood kids to hide their trash cans.
No one can resist a triple-dog dare, and your hands will be clean. :)
Or just ignore it. Either way.

speeder 12-13-2018 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 10282522)
Since I know what the answer is on calling cops here in busy LA, I thought what the hell, called the police station 20 min ago. Here's the answer.

Me: Neighbor put all three of their trashcans for trash collection in front of my house leaving their sidewalk completely empty free of city trash can. Is there anything you can do or advice I do so they can put the cans back in front of their house? Any possible way to send an officer to talk with them when time allows?

Officer: Sir, your neighbor isn't doing anything illegal, or harmful to anyone. We will not send the police officer to your home. Its a civil matter between you and them. I suggest you talk to them and solve the issue. Is there anything else I can help you with? Hung up (more then likely called my a dub ass)

Didn't I already explain this to you? :confused:

Zeke 12-13-2018 07:11 AM

"22. Question: How can I stop my neighbor from using my trash, recycling, or greenery container?
Answer: Once the container is at the curb for collection, you cannot stop neighbors from inserting waste
into your container. We encourage the occasional overflow to be distributed to nearby containers for
safe and litter free waste collection which sometimes results from overfilled containers."


That's a great item to see in words. As a contractor I have often used the cans near by a job for light weight debris. Construction debris is technically not supposed to be placed in any municipal container, but I'm taking about some bagged sawdust and a few cut offs. No more than 20 lbs.

So occasionally someone will complain about me tossing my trash in their cans and I simply read back to them what is printed on the lid, "Property of the City of Long Beach."

No, I've not made any friends doing that. However, in over 25 years of installing windows I never once got a job from a neighbor who noticed me on their street, whether they walked over or not. I got 75% of my business by referral and the rest through advertising.

look 171 12-13-2018 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 10282799)
Didn't I already explain this to you? :confused:

Growing up here in lala land, I knew the answer all along and posted it early on this thread. Since some of us suggested that I call anyway, so why not? I thought I exercise my tax dollar for one minute and make them boys in blue work for it.

look 171 12-13-2018 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 10282855)
"22. Question: How can I stop my neighbor from using my trash, recycling, or greenery container?
Answer: Once the container is at the curb for collection, you cannot stop neighbors from inserting waste
into your container. We encourage the occasional overflow to be distributed to nearby containers for
safe and litter free waste collection which sometimes results from overfilled containers."


That's a great item to see in words. As a contractor I have often used the cans near by a job for light weight debris. Construction debris is technically not supposed to be placed in any municipal container, but I'm taking about some bagged sawdust and a few cut offs. No more than 20 lbs.

So occasionally someone will complain about me tossing my trash in their cans and I simply read back to them what is printed on the lid, "Property of the City of Long Beach."

No, I've not made any friends doing that. However, in over 25 years of installing windows I never once got a job from a neighbor who noticed me on their street, whether they walked over or not. I got 75% of my business by referral and the rest through advertising.

We never put any trash in the neighbor's cans unless we are looking for a fight. I have had crazy people come over and complain about us filling their cans with our construction trash only because they feel its us and its heavy. One time, I told this neighbor that if I tip it over and see no construction material, he gets to pick it all back up. he was so sure that my men filled the can. I dumped it all over his driveway and it was trash from his own house. The gardener has filled the bottom half with branches.

sugarwood 12-13-2018 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 10282536)
All the suggestions that are illegal only put you in jeopardy.
I say go and politely yet bluntly ask "WHY do you do this?" and stand there and wait for an answer. Don't say another word. Just stand there, stare at them and wait for an answer.
.

I suggested the exact same thing.
For some reason, he refuses to acknowledge this most obvious solution.

911 Rod 12-13-2018 12:43 PM

Here's my guess.
You pissed off the last renter and he figured he'd get his day.
When he left he left a bbq or something and told the new renters that they could have it as long as they put their garbage in front of the crazy guy next door's house.
If you talked to them maybe they would tell you .....

look 171 12-13-2018 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 10283303)
I suggested the exact same thing.
For some reason, he refuses to acknowledge this most obvious solution.

You guys really don't think I have tried talking to them? I have never ask why and wait there for an answer. Most I get out of them is, Yeah, ok. Turn around and go back inside and hide. I normally don't see them. :rolleyes:

Jims5543 12-14-2018 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 10282566)
Well George, no one is hurt by it, but my wife and I sure dislike looking out the kitchen window seeing their cans on our sidewalk. My biggest PITA is when the garbage truck dumps their usual over flowing trash, some of it gets dumped on my yard or curb. It aint my wife that's picking that up, its me. I often drag their cans back over their side every Tuesday morning before I leave the house. On days I leave after 10, truck's already dumped so I drag their cans back over only because I don't want to look at it and their cans are filthy and stinky. Its never gets washed.

I tried buying that house before the current owner somehow purchased it. I offer over the asking and my offer was more then his when he sell it short during the last recession. Believe me, I tried like hell to buy it. I didn't get it. Now, he's sandwiched between us, not that it makes any difference.

The solution I suggested fixes this problem. You do not like all the cans in front of your house, put yours in front of their house then there will be less cans.

I have a similar problem, I will get a pic when if I get home before it is dark tonight. If not I will snap a pic tomorrow. It is called "The log dilemma"

I hate this time I year, I never see my house in the daytime from M-F.

David 12-14-2018 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 10283313)
Here's my guess.
You pissed off the last renter and he figured he'd get his day.
When he left he left a bbq or something and told the new renters that they could have it as long as they put their garbage in front of the crazy guy next door's house.
If you talked to them maybe they would tell you .....

Bingo

onewhippedpuppy 12-14-2018 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 10282799)
Didn't I already explain this to you? :confused:

Hell I live in Wichita and would have gotten the same response.

KFC911 12-14-2018 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 10283898)
Hell I live in Wichita and would have gotten the same response.

Those cans would be ancient history were it me....

"I'd like to report a stolen trash can...."

LOL...

That's the response you'd get here also ;)

If you let people walk all over you....some will :(

Gogar 12-14-2018 05:50 AM

When I was in college there was this old fella across the street named Casey who used to get AMPED when someone parked in front of his house, (on the public street.) he was a real screamer. At a certain point he started screaming and mumbling to himself when cars would pull up on the opposite side of the street, if he felt that they had parked in front of his house at any point in the past, or if he felt that they had potential to park in front of his house in the future. Yelling and screaming, waving his cane in the air. “I’m an attorny!” Or something.
Then one day Casey died.

fintstone 12-14-2018 06:01 AM

The solution is simple. Escalate or STFU. Just start parking an old car or truck in front of their house "legally". The larger and crappier, the better. An old pickup with a load of manure would be a good choice. Eventually, they will ask you why you do so...and you can tell them because they park their cans in front of your house. Offer a truce and you both keep your crap from in front of each other's home. They will be impressed that you are a formidable foe (instead of the pussy you appear to be) and you will become best friends...or they will vandalize your vehicle and you can have them arrested.

KFC911 12-14-2018 06:03 AM

We're all gonna die....but they won't be able to dump my sorry azz in my neighbor's toter....that's sitting in front of my house either :).

Me....I wouldn't GAF about the toter....but wouldn't "take" the neighbor's bs attitude with no reaction either...but that's just me.

I'll be nice and get along with anyone....until they give me a good reason not to....then all bets are off...YMMV.

recycled sixtie 12-14-2018 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 10283942)
The solution is simple. Escalate or STFU. Just start parking an old car or truck in front of their house "legally". The larger and crappier, the better. An old pickup with a load of manure would be a good choice. Eventually, they will ask you why you do so...and you can tell them because they park their cans in front of your house. Offer a truce and you both keep your crap from in front of each other's home. They will be impressed that you are a formidable foe (instead of the pussy you appear to be) and you will become best friends...or they will vandalize your vehicle and you can have them arrested.

I agree with this to a point. Years back my neighbor(now deceased) used to park his work van in front of our house or the next door neighbor. Bylaw states max 72 hours parked on the street without moving. I called Bylaw dept. on the 73rd hour and got it ticketed. So short term I think it might work to park a pos vehicle in front of your neighbors' house. Our offending neighbor has a new husband and we are still on speaking terms.

stomachmonkey 12-14-2018 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 10283942)
The solution is simple. Escalate or STFU. Just start parking an old car or truck in front of their house "legally". The larger and crappier, the better. An old pickup with a load of manure would be a good choice. Eventually, they will ask you why you do so...and you can tell them because they park their cans in front of your house. Offer a truce and you both keep your crap from in front of each other's home. They will be impressed that you are a formidable foe (instead of the pussy you appear to be) and you will become best friends...or they will vandalize your vehicle and you can have them arrested.

It does not happen often but I agree with Fint here.

Zeke 12-14-2018 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 10282889)
We never put any trash in the neighbor's cans unless we are looking for a fight. I have had crazy people come over and complain about us filling their cans with our construction trash only because they feel its us and its heavy. One time, I told this neighbor that if I tip it over and see no construction material, he gets to pick it all back up. he was so sure that my men filled the can. I dumped it all over his driveway and it was trash from his own house. The gardener has filled the bottom half with branches.

Good move. Still, the cans are not personal property.

New suggestion: maybe more honey and less vinegar. Write them a short note explaining that you've asked that they keep their cans on their side of the property line and nothing has happened. Ask again with a valid reason and tape if to a bottle of decent wine along with a long stem rose. Yellow would be my choice.

This is the guilt approach. If nothing, then buy the fooking house. To facilitate that, note ALL of any code violations and call the LA City code compliance officer. When the list finds the owner, so do you. You know the drill, screens, house numbers, weeds, trash and junk, anything that will hold water to help with mosquito breeding, habitats for rats, broken foundation vents, deteriorated roof, peeling paint, all that jazz.

sugarwood 12-14-2018 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 10283476)
You guys really don't think I have tried talking to them? I have never ask why and wait there for an answer. Most I get out of them is, Yeah, ok. Turn around and go back inside and hide. I normally don't see them. :rolleyes:

Why can't you ask them "WHY are you putting the cans in front my my house?"
They will have to give you a reason. It can not be ignored.
How is this not the FIRST thing out of your mouth?

URY914 12-14-2018 09:41 AM

I'm not opening this thread again...........SmileWavy:rolleyes:

KFC911 12-14-2018 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 10284206)
I'm not opening this thread again...........SmileWavy:rolleyes:

Why....because yer dumbazz idea of calling the cops didn't work :)?

wdfifteen 12-14-2018 10:33 AM

Our trash cans are owned by the trash company. If one is missing we call the trash company, not the cops.
Are you afraid the trash company is going to charge you for the extra cans in front of your house? Call the trash company, tell them what's going on. If they care they'll call the neighbor. If they don't care, why should you?

URY914 12-14-2018 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 10284264)
Why....because yer dumbazz idea of calling the cops didn't work :)?

Wow glad I checked back on this thread. Didn't think I'd look did ya? Now can you take the knife out of my back.

Who made you the expert on ideas, I see yours have worked out so well too.

Pretty low life comment to make thinking that I won't see it.

KFC911 12-14-2018 10:44 AM

I knew you'd be back...knew you'd see it too :)

I don't do green...

He hasn't tried any of my BRILLIANT ideas yet...they WILL work however ;)

stomachmonkey 12-14-2018 10:44 AM

These are renters right?

I think if direct confrontation is not your thing then a little biblical "plague" justice may be in order.

For starters, hit up your local pet store for a big giant bag of crickets.

You are in construction, I'm sure you can find a way to introduce them into the structure.

If you can get a source for cockroaches even better.

Are they generally upwind or down wind? If the later it may be time for a coupla hundred yards of "fertilizer' to be dropped off right on the property line. Take your time in spreading it around. Make sure to keep it wet.

Pet sit for a friends yappy pocket dog, leave it outside often.

Cover their roof in bird seed every 3 days or as frequently as needed.

Start having parties. Put ads on Craigs list for Swinger parties but insist on really old overweight people that are into nudism.

Disconnect the mufflers on all your cars. Come and go frequently late at night or early in the morning.

Bob Kontak 12-14-2018 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 10284299)
I think if direct confrontation is not your thing................

To each their own. Not this one for me, though. However, I will wimp out on certain confrontations. Like on brake arguments with Verburg or when Wayne/Jack PM'd me and says I am being a jerk. Or where some dude I pissed off is frikkin huge and could snap me like a pretzel, and I just first had to get my say in like a fool. (Run, Forrest, run)

That said, for the Mrs., she is not quite as diffident. Have her do the nasty. It does not have to be ugly like I would do it. Confrontational with respect.

Norm K 12-14-2018 12:51 PM

Cancel your service and use their cans?

_

Gogar 12-14-2018 12:52 PM

I agree! Street justice!

You should light your house on fire; that’ll show em!!

Tobra 12-14-2018 01:00 PM

I know a guy who actually did burn down his own house. Going through a nasty divorce. Cancelled his fire insurance so he could not get pinched for insurance fraud, lit it up and would not let the fire department come on the property to put it out until it was brick chimney standing in the middle of a pile of ashes.

wdfifteen 12-14-2018 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gogar (Post 10284440)
I agree! Street justice!

Yeah! Justice delayed is justice denied! Time to get medieval on the bastage! These are trash cans people!! Today it’s trash cans, tomorrow he’ll be kicking gravel onto your driveway - one of these days it willl be Hefty bags, sitting right there next to yer own personal garbage can. Then what are we going to do? Better to blow this sumbich up right here and now. ‘Merica!!

KFC911 12-14-2018 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10284606)
Yeah! Justice delayed is justice denied! Time to get medieval on the bastage! These are trash cans people!! Today it’s trash cans, tomorrow he’ll be kicking gravel onto your driveway - one of these days it willl be Hefty bags, sitting right there next to yer own personal garbage can. Then what are we going to do? Better to blow this sumbich up right here and now. ‘Merica!!

...or let them eat cake ;).

Would you cut your neighbor's fence if he (or his dad), did something that showed TOTAL disrespect for your family's land? I have recently and welcome the day some azzhole wants to say anything to me about it....

I don't live in Pussyville, USA either...and I'm not going anywhere...welcome to my 'Merica :)

Different strokes....


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