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JB Weld, Gorilla, Loctite & Flex Glue TEST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4xX7VecgzA

Yes I have always liked JB weld.....Epoxy for quick repairs

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Old 01-05-2019, 01:08 PM
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Testing was well executed but would like to see how vibration effects each. JB Weld fracures easily with only slight vibration.

I use Loctite's Hysol EA E-40HT for nearly everything. LOCTITE EA E-40HT

Vibration, temperature, solvent and chemical resistant with extremely strong bonds.

Surface prep is everything in epoxies.
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Old 01-05-2019, 01:40 PM
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Great video, thanks for sharing.

I use JB Weld a fair bit, so good to see this.
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On my T34, I had some decomposition of the engine case around the oil sump,due to the engine sitting with water in the oil. I cleaned it up really well and glooped in some JB-weld, then sanded it down once it cured. It's been several years and it's still holding up well.
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Old 01-05-2019, 02:18 PM
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On my T34 one of my early 911 builds, I had some decomposition of the engine case around the oil sump,due to the engine sitting with water in the oil. I cleaned it up really well and glooped in some JB-weld Marine-Tex, then sanded it down once it cured. It's been several years and it's still holding up well.
Marine Tex..It was years ago, and I was poor, and trying to get a 911 running again
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Old 01-05-2019, 02:34 PM
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what I like about JB Weld is it bonds to Mg very well. Every fan and housing I Cerakote is frosted like a cake with JB Weld and then sanded smooth for a perfect finish.
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I can't see the link right now but I assume that is the Project Farm YouTube channel. You guys should check out his other videos, he is creative and does fun videos testing all kinds of mechanical/electrical/engine stuff.

I just watched one recently where he tested 3D printed cylinder heads on a mower engine.
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what I like about JB Weld is it bonds to Mg very well. Every fan and housing I Cerakote is frosted like a cake with JB Weld and then sanded smooth for a perfect finish.
For smoothing imperfections/pits?

I have to do some study on Cerakote.

Just rambling. I do like JB Weld and it does a wonderful job if you set up the bond site properly. Clean and enhance mechanical adhesion if possible. I do like several hours set up for the Quik but works fine for a wimpy repair in a much shorter time window.

I'll watch the vid now. LOL.
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For smoothing imperfections/pits?

I have to do some study on Cerakote.

Just rambling. I do like JB Weld and it does a wonderful job if you set up the bond site properly. Clean and enhance mechanical adhesion if possible. I do like several hours set up for the Quik but works fine for a wimpy repair in a much shorter time window.

I'll watch the vid now. LOL.


Exactly Bob. This fan and housing used to be horribly pitted. Frosted and then about 3 hours of sanding. Cerakote goes on in plating level thickness. Just need a good gun with a .8 tip (I use a Sata 4400) and an oven. Far superior to powder in every way.




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When I built my last engine for my RX7 we did an extremely aggressive street port on it. We had to break into a water jacket in order to get the shape we wanted on the port and get the timing right.

If you do not know rotary engines it is sort of like a 2 stroke engine, you can change the port timing which is akin to an aggressive cam on a piston car.

We needed to seal back up the water jacket. I refused to believe JB Weld would hold so I purchased 2 different kinds of epoxy's one cost me over $100 for a quart.

We tried to create a scenario like it would experience inside the engine, we boiled it in water, we heated it up in a water antifreeze compound we also threw in some gasoline and oil.

The only epoxy that held strong was the JB Weld.

I still refused to believe it so I consulted two different engine builders who are renowned in the rotary world. Both said the same... JB Weld.

So we used it, that was almost 20 K miles algo and 10 years ago the engine still runs perfectly, furthermore it was an engine initially designed to handle the abuse and heat of 255HP tuned to make 550HP.

I knew before I started watching that video what the result was going to be.
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Not to change subjects, but do you take apart the fan when coating it?

It looks like new parts and rivets.

Nice job.

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When I built my last engine for my RX7 we did an extremely aggressive street port on it. We had to break into a water jacket in order to get the shape we wanted on the port and get the timing right.

If you do not know rotary engines it is sort of like a 2 stroke engine, you can change the port timing which is akin to an aggressive cam on a piston car.

We needed to seal back up the water jacket. I refused to believe JB Weld would hold so I purchased 2 different kinds of epoxy's one cost me over $100 for a quart.

We tried to create a scenario like it would experience inside the engine, we boiled it in water, we heated it up in a water antifreeze compound we also threw in some gasoline and oil.

The only epoxy that held strong was the JB Weld.

I still refused to believe it so I consulted two different engine builders who are renowned in the rotary world. Both said the same... JB Weld.

So we used it, that was almost 20 K miles algo and 10 years ago the engine still runs perfectly, furthermore it was an engine initially designed to handle the abuse and heat of 255HP tuned to make 550HP.

I knew before I started watching that video what the result was going to be.
Wow..awesome Jim
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Not to change subjects, but do you take apart the fan when coating it?

It looks like new parts and rivets.

Nice job.
Thanks. Fans and housings are fun.

Yes, I drill out the old solid rivets and plate the hub and associated hardware, refinish the fan and then rivet the hub back in place with a 4X gun.

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Thanks. Fans and housings are fun.

Yes, I drill out the old solid rivets and plate the hub and associated hardware, refinish the fan and then rivet the hub back in place with a 4X gun.

You're bada55!
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I use JBweld a fair bit. It works great to smooth out corroded metal before powdercoating.
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Anyone else use JB Weld for "non traditional uses" ? Last 2 times I used it was to bed the receiver and first few inches of barrel on super accurate 10/22 builds... .

Should you need to, Kiwi neutral shoe polish makes a good release agent....
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Thanks for sharing - he did a pretty good set of "real world" tests. His other videos are really entertaining and informative too.
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Thanks Steve! One of the best parts of what I do is all the toys I get to buy, and make, to do what I want. Took four, 10 hour days to figure out how to duplicate the factory rivets and then make the jig and the set to do it. So much fun!
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