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			I have a 2017 Sanger DX2 Raptor and of all the things it has it doesn't have a single docking cleate anywhere on the stupid thing.  150k and I can't tie it to the dock unless I use the wake tower.  Do people just drill cleats in?  If I go to Mastercraft and ask this question I'll leave with a lighter wallet.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
				
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			Seriously?  WTF good is that?  I’ve never seen anything bigger than a row boat without cleats.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Don't have a competition wake boat, but bought a 2006 Enzo SV230 last year.  Can't imagine not having cleats.  Tempted by the new boats but happy with this one I picked up last winter as our first boat.  We keep it out at Powell.  I see you are in my neck of the woods. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	I would think drilling in cleats would be a simple solution. Post it on Centurioncrew and I would think someone would be able to answer this question.  | 
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			I'd imagine there are eyelets for bow/stern lines somewhere.  You can use those with QD bow/stern lines (carabiners on one end) to tie off to the deck cleats. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	At that price though, you'd think it would have a couple port/starboard cleats and even inset eyelets per side for bumpers at least. I think many have inboard points so you can just flip the bumpers in/out without attaching/detaching each time (no rope-over when stowed). I'd be a bit hesitant to add cleats, as that would mean drilling holes in your boat. Not a huge deal I guess. If you do, maybe go with some quality flush-mount (pop-up) ones.  | 
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This is it!!!!  Thank's kwdnobull!  I'm going to get one for starboard an port front from Iboats tonight.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Noooooo, don't put cleats on your boat! 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			I have had older comp boats in the past and I just ran a line from the tower and one from the pop-up ski tow. If you don't have a tow pop-up just use the bow eye and a stern eye. 
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			Just to give you an idea, this Sanger is not mine but you can see it doesn't have a cleat anywhere. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			 
		
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Why not cleats?  I'm a wake boat newbie. so educate me!
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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Also curious.  Without cleats that means you will never dock it anywhere.  Can’t even take it to dinner, which doesn’t seem very practical.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			We have a 2012 Sport Nautique 200V. Pop-up cleats in the front and back. They stay tucked down when you’re skiing, pop them up when you need to tie off (rare as the boat is on a lift on our dock). They’re great.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			If you install cleats, use backing plates if possible, not just washers, even if you have to fab something up. Measure 3x, drill/cut once.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I would imagine that a competition ski boat would have nothing that sticks up, and could be caught by a passing ski rope when doing 360*s or other side work. I don't know why they wouldn'y have hide-a-way cleats though, makes docking much easier.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Not sure why - but Ski Nautique doesn't install cleats anywhere...  Always wondered why. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	![]() Same on the old Century. Just the ski pole and bow/stern lift rings.  
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			I can't imagine not having pop up cleats on our boat.  If you purchased it from a dealer, just bring it back and say put them on (for free).  I'm guessing he will do it without whining too much...
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			If you want good hardware order Gemlux.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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