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Jeff Higgins 05-05-2019 09:18 PM

Too much money at stake. That seems to be the underlying problem with most sports these days. Pretty much takes the "sport" out of much of it.

svandamme 05-06-2019 02:09 AM

Any kind of competition with horses, Steeple, racing, jupings, etc etc is about the ego of the owners or gambling business.. It's never about the horse being put first in the decisions.. So to hell with it..it's a racket.

Porsche-O-Phile 05-06-2019 03:51 AM

So it’s like F1 under Bernie Ecclestone then basically.. Ok now I understand- I think..

Sooner or later 05-06-2019 06:57 AM

Anthony Stabile, Horse Racing Radio Network talks about Derby. 10 minutes and gives his expert take



https://cbssportsradio.radio.com/media/audio-channel/anthony-stabile-horse-racing-radio-network

ckelly78z 05-06-2019 08:04 AM

I don't tune in for the pagentry, the back stories, or the after interviews, I tune in to watch a horse race that I have never bet on.

Tobra 05-06-2019 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz (Post 10448445)
In watching that video, you have to wonder why the jockey took his horse off the inside rail?

Even if it was unintentional, it doesn't seem very smart.

Maybe less sloppy off the rail a bit, very dangerous move, could have been ugly

Pretty cut and dry foul, even with little knowledge of the sport.

Yeah, a horse race up close will take your breath away.

GH85Carrera 05-06-2019 08:17 AM

Watching a horse race can be kinda fun. There is a track just 5.5 miles from my house. In the 30+ years they have been open, I have been twice. First time was fun, second time was boring to me.

From what the news is saying about it, it is not uncommon across the country in a horse race for a horse to be disqualified for what happened. Rubbing is not racing with horses evidently.

This is just the first time it has happened in the big race. Lots of money bet and spent. Not one cent from me, so I don't give a flip.

Sooner or later 05-06-2019 08:23 AM

Remington?

BeyGon 05-06-2019 08:28 AM

As wet as that track was they were lucky nobody fell, some bumping with that many horses would seem possible and even at that, he led wire to wire.

I like golf, the ball goes in the hole, you win.

KFC911 05-06-2019 09:54 AM

I've been to a horse track more times than I can remember....haven't seen a horse yet...

'Nawlins Jazz Fest :)

Race was rigged....rigged...I tell ya!

Mr. Ed

HardDrive 05-07-2019 10:53 AM

I've got a friend who is a horse person. She said the call was 100% legit. It just happened in a very high profile race, but it happens all the time.

KFC911 05-07-2019 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 10449979)

Race was rigged....rigged...I tell ya!

Mr. Ed

Race was rigged....rigged...I tell ya!

Lassie

javadog 05-12-2019 03:50 AM

Another look at the incident:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/horseracing/2019/05/10/kentucky-derby-video-shows-maximum-security-jockey-not-fault-lawyers-say/1166166001/

wdfifteen 05-12-2019 04:23 AM

I like watching dogs and horses when they run for the sheer joy of it. Brings a smile to my face every time. But I don’t care to watch them race.

CurtEgerer 05-12-2019 04:40 AM

And this is exactly what I was talking about earlier in that a precedent has now been set wherein all future Derbies will be determined, not by the fastest horse, but by excruciating frame-by-frame analysis for weeks, months, and years by attorneys in a courtroom.

Based on the video above, why wasn't War of Will DQ'd for the obvious cheating out of the gate, or the several other infractions shown? Video also sure seems to clear Maximum Security.

In fact, I'll bet a frame-by-frame analysis of every past Derby would result in multiple DQs for technical infractions ... how long before an enterprising young attorney begins? Better call Saul!

CurtEgerer 05-12-2019 04:49 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1557665289.jpg

McLovin 05-12-2019 04:56 AM

It’s a tough situation.

You obviously have to have some rules, I don’t think a horse race can be a free for all.

But that video sure does seem to clear Maximum Security. Or at least explain why he did what he did, which was try to get away from that other horse who struck him many times and put him in real danger or going down.

In the expert opinion clip the guy says it was a good call because MS clearly interfered the other horses, but that ignores the fact the War of Wills clearly interfered MS first, and many times, which caused MS to have to protect itself.

What a mess for the Derby.

Sooner or later 05-12-2019 05:01 AM

Many horses get run down and passed down the stretch. So we can't say he was the fastest horse since by moving off the rail and causing other horses to back down he created an advantage that is illegal by the rules that have been in place for decades.

CurtEgerer 05-12-2019 05:02 AM

Next year, instead of Donna Barton riding up to interview the winner of the Derby, John Morgan is going to ride up with a fistful of business cards :cool:

javadog 05-12-2019 05:03 AM

I think the horse that was said to have been impeded was causing most of his own problems in the entire race.


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