Where Did The 911s Go?

[Jim Richards]

Originally Posted by VincentVega

I loved that thing. I'll never forget turn 1 at SP, manual brakes!!

take it easy buddy

I still have in car video of chasing you around the Shenandoah Circuit.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

My insurance is under $900/year for over $50K coverage. I think I have 5000 miles a year which is easy to stay within given winter storage.

People are just idiots for not driving these cars. They're just cars. Insured. Replaceable with proper insurance. The only thing I think about is my car is a one of one special order car. Even then, it's a car. Perspective is everything.

not driving your car is like not having romantic relations with your wife because you might get divorced someday.

I can't agree with this. First of all, your car is worth more to you than a handsome sum of replacement coverage. You've put hours in that won't be there on a replacement. Little things that made it yours as opposed to a used car that someone else owned before you. I don't need to elaborate.

On the wife thing, I don't think that thought is anywhere in the ballpark concerning a classic car. No such thing as a classic wife that you might sell some day for a profit (or to at least cover the expense of owning it). In fact, with the wife, you won't recover a modicum of what she cost you, for better or for worse.

No, the wife you ride hard and put away wet if you think that divorce is a possibility because you won't get that chance again. The car waits in silence, loyal as a dog.

Whether you drive it a lot or not.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by MMARSH

Agreed, exactly why i just sold my 72 two days ago and listed 4 bikes for sale as well....

I cant believe how good it felt to get rid of all the Porsche stuff up in my attic and scattered around the garage and shed. Getting 1000% more then i bought it for didnt hurt either...

Sorry about the '72 911 but I have to agree on the ridding oneself of all the accumulation of all things Porsche. I still have stuff 8 years later. And I took a whole truck load out to the German Fest swap a few years back and left with a nice sum.

Still have all the early 911 factory service manuals if anyone is interested.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by Zeke

I can't agree with this. First of all, your car is worth more to you than a handsome sum of replacement coverage. You've put hours in that won't be there on a replacement. Little things that made it yours as opposed to a used car that someone else owned before you. I don't need to elaborate.

Hey Milt, please, do elaborate. I'd like to hear your thoughts.

[Evans, Marv]

I'm trying to get my car back together so I can drive it. It's been an ongoing project for years now. I've done so much to that car, like Milt says I've put in hours upon hours and a decent sum of money into it so that it's almost an appendage. If I ever sell it, I think I'll buy one of those nice 356 convertible replicas. But I like just looking at it. The colors and shape are like art to me. Maybe my wife will get a few bucks out of it after I kick the bucket.

[Noah930]

I was thinking about this thread yesterday, as I sat in morning traffic (you do that a lot in LA). I was in the Civic, not the 911. It's one thing to drive these things like they were meant to be used. But it's another thing to trundle and idle through stop and go traffic for 30-45 minutes each way. All the while dodging other drivers texting, treating stop signs/red lights/double yellow lines as optional, making left turns from the right lane (or vice versa), making U-turns from parked positions, making sudden lane changes without using their turn signals or checking their blind spots, etc. There are a lot of people out there who are lucky that I'm a good driver, because they sure aren't.

[ficke]

Originally Posted by Noah930

I was thinking about this thread yesterday, as I sat in morning traffic (you do that a lot in LA). I was in the Civic, not the 911. It's one thing to drive these things like they were meant to be used. But it's another thing to trundle and idle through stop and go traffic for 30-45 minutes each way. All the while dodging other drivers texting, treating stop signs/red lights/double yellow lines as optional, making left turns from the right lane (or vice versa), making U-turns from parked positions, making sudden lane changes without using their turn signals or checking their blind spots, etc. There are a lot of people out there who are lucky that I'm a good driver, because they sure aren't.

That is why I will never live in LA, People there turn their cars into a form of solitary confinement when they should be a form of freedom.

[freeform911]

About to take my 86 back to the track to beat on for a weekend. No better feeling then wringing the pi$$ out of the old girl..

[Noah930]

Originally Posted by ficke

That is why I will never live in LA, People there turn their cars into a form of solitary confinement when they should be a form of freedom.

Normally (9 out of 10 times) I'd agree with you. But yesterday in the 930, on the way home after another day in the salt mines, some guy in a 991 cab pulled up at a red light and we chatted about Porsches for a minute before the light turned green. Pleasant surprise.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by ficke

That is why I will never live in LA, People there turn their cars into a form of solitary confinement when they should be a form of freedom.

You have no idea what it's like to live in L.A., being only a visitor. It's car and motorcycle heaven. One of these days, I'm going to make a GoPro video of driving or riding around to post whenever someone makes these statements.

Yesterday, I had to go to Pro Italia to pick up my bike. The drive looked like this, (210 freeway in La Crescenta:


Then I was at Pro Italia and I had to take a picture, it was just so beautiful. A video would have been better, the children at the school in background were at recess and the sounds were amazing of them playing outdoors on a perfect California day. The temperature and the air were impossible to describe, just too beautiful:


Then I had to drive from Sunland to Acton to grab something, I took Big Tujunga to Angeles Forrest Highway, (major shortcut and all in L.A. county if not technically city of L.A.). This 30 minute drive had more beautiful, empty, high speed curves than the entire state of Arizona and probably Nevada and ten others in the midwest combined but it's such a small part of L.A. that most people don't know it exists. I did not take any photos of the road, (too busy steering), but I had to pull over to get a shot of the rare desert flowers popping-up from all of the recent rain:


Then back to work on my bike to get ready to ride up the coast this summer. Big Sur is only 6 hours away and it's possibly the most beautiful 6 hour drive or ride in N. America. It's car and bike heaven here.


As for driving a 930 in rush hour traffic on the 405, of course you would not want to do that. There are better cars for that task. But that's never changed. In 1968, you would not want to sit in L.A. rush hour traffic in a finely tuned sports car. It's a big, crowded city in its center.

[Ayles]

Last week I saw three air cooled 911s from I-5 to my neighborhood (5miles). Typical Tuesday in the city once it gets nice out.

[ficke]

Originally Posted by speeder

You have no idea what it's like to live in L.A., being only a visitor. It's car and motorcycle heaven. One of these days, I'm going to make a GoPro video of driving or riding around to post whenever someone makes these statements.

Yesterday, I had to go to Pro Italia to pick up my bike. The drive looked like this, (210 freeway in La Crescenta:


Then I was at Pro Italia and I had to take a picture, it was just so beautiful. A video would have been better, the children at the school in background were at recess and the sounds were amazing of them playing outdoors on a perfect California day. The temperature and the air were impossible to describe, just too beautiful:


Then I had to drive from Sunland to Acton to grab something, I took Big Tujunga to Angeles Forrest Highway, (major shortcut and all in L.A. county if not technically city of L.A.). This 30 minute drive had more beautiful, empty, high speed curves than the entire state of Arizona and probably Nevada and ten others in the midwest combined but it's such a small part of L.A. that most people don't know it exists. I did not take any photos of the road, (too busy steering), but I had to pull over to get a shot of the rare desert flowers popping-up from all of the recent rain:


Then back to work on my bike to get ready to ride up the coast this summer. Big Sur is only 6 hours away and it's possibly the most beautiful 6 hour drive or ride in N. America. It's car and bike heaven here.


As for driving a 930 in rush hour traffic on the 405, of course you would not want to do that. There are better cars for that task. But that's never changed. In 1968, you would not want to sit in L.A. rush hour traffic in a finely tuned sports car. It's a big, crowded city in its center.

Hit a nerve?
Seems a common trait Californians have is needing to convince others how great it is there. Why is that? or they really trying to convince themselves?
I am glad you like where you live, It truly does have some nice upsides.

[R K T]

California (Hell A) native here. Speeder and the 18 million other people can have it. I live in the desert 100 miles away and it takes 3+ hours to drive over there.
Can’t wait to get the f out of this state.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by ficke

That is why I will never live in LA, People there turn their cars into a form of solitary confinement when they should be a form of freedom.

I bet you that many of those drivers Noah mentioned aren't from LA. They are freaking transplants and don't know how to drive in a massive city like this. More then anything else, they are just selfish. Me, me, me, just stop traffic and pull a u turn while everyone waits just a few second while they reverse their car to make the turn. I bet they don't do that siht back home.

[Evans, Marv]

I don't notice hardly any 911s pre '89 on the roads anymore. I've seen a couple of long hoods in the past couple of years, and they looked like they were restored. Very nice. The last older Porsche I saw was about a week ago on I-8. It was (what looked like) a 356B - silver coupe - on a fairly large flat bed truck. I was thinking it would have been so much better to have driven it, but don't know where it was headed for. I was also thinking how now days these cars are hauled from one place to another on a truck, which is kind of a sad thing.

[Noah930]

I bet you that many of those drivers Noah mentioned aren't from LA. They are freaking transplants and don't know how to drive in a massive city like this. More then anything else, they are just selfish. Me, me, me, just stop traffic and pull a u turn while everyone waits just a few second while they reverse their car to make the turn. I bet they don't do that siht back home.

^^^ Threadjack, but it's the selfishness that gets to me. Maybe it shouldn't, but it wears on me. I think it's worse in the anonymity of a car. I find it tiring to live in a society where everybody is so freakin' important and special, that the rules don't apply to them. Everyone expects some sort of special dispensation. That their needs and desires trump (hah, use that word in a sentence around here and see heads explode ) those of everyone else's.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by ficke

Hit a nerve?
Seems a common trait Californians have is needing to convince others how great it is there. Why is that? or they really trying to convince themselves?
I am glad you like where you live, It truly does have some nice upsides.

I take for granted the beauty of this place most of the time but sometimes it just smacks you in the face so hard that you can’t ignore it. Like almost every day.

I try to avoid gloating until someone from a much less desirable place knocks my state, especially with the distorted observations of a hapless tourist, stuck on the freeway. If you split California in half, north/south, either one would still be the most beautiful state. They take surveys of travel writers and it’s not even close. Alaska and Hawaii jostle for second place, depending on the survey. The states that most California haters live in wouldn’t make the top 40.

So yeah, I’ll stick up for my great state!

[Captain Ahab Jr]

Surprised by the bitter comments, whinging glands flaring up are they!

Thanks for posting Speeder, looks like a great place to be when the ground isn't shaking

[speeder]

We actually need a good earthquake here. I don’t want anyone to die, I just want them to schit in their pants and go running to Kansas and Iowa.

[911boost]

Kansas and Iowa don’t want them.

Plus, the winters will scare them away. When I was in MN the first snow of the year completely outed all the recent transplants!

Great pictures from your drive.