Where Did The 911s Go?

[R K T]

Originally Posted by speeder

Especially this week in Palm Springs.

RGruppe comes out a couple times a year but there is a nice bunch that is here year round that meets every Sunday morning for a run up Hwy 74.

[Racerbvd]

I'm down to 3 911s now , but have been playing with them for a while. No plans to let these go.

[911boost]

I was in Munich this week and I saw one 964 and one 993. Now with that being said I was here for work and did not really get to explore a ton. Spent the majority of the time in Tengersee where I did see a really cool painting of a long hood in one of the art galleries.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by McLovin

Very nice '88 Coupe for $44K

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1988-porsche-911-carrera-42/

You're normally spot on with the market, so what you are saying is very puzzling to me.

I guess unless you think something like $45K for a very nice driver 80-120,000 mile G50 coupe is crazy pricing. I just don't think that's true, and in fact they were going for more than that 2 years ago. Pricing is down.

And soooo many big bumper air cooled 911s on BaT for sale, certainly every week, and these days pretty much every single day.

You show a handful that represent the new normal, that's fair. But overall compared to even 2 years ago the total volume for sale is way down. BaT may have some recent reasonable sales, but they have also had a lot of YGBSM sales over the last few years. I'm also talking about normal sites like Craigslist, which used to be full of old Porsches. Now they are the exception, not the rule. Maybe everyone is just putting them on BaT so it's one week and done.

As noted by others on this thread, they are also scarce on the road.

[piscator]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

You show a handful that represent the new normal, that's fair. But overall compared to even 2 years ago the total volume for sale is way down. BaT may have some recent reasonable sales, but they have also had a lot of YGBSM sales over the last few years. I'm also talking about normal sites like Craigslist, which used to be full of old Porsches. Now they are the exception, not the rule. Maybe everyone is just putting them on BaT so it's one week and done.

As noted by others on this thread, they are also scarce on the road.

You're right about the present dearth of Porsche offerings on Craiglist and other classified ad sheets. Heck, I used to see Porsches listed, occasionally, in the 'Uncle Henry's' classifieds' up in Maine!

For those interested, 'Uncle Henry's' classifieds came before 'Craig's' but a little after 'Ben Franklin's'... ;-)

[speeder]

You also used to be able to find '69 Chevelle SS 396s and clean early 911S coupes in the Recycler every week in LA, (pre-internet). Times change. Objects get old and years pass between now and the last time they were stamped-out.

The current pricing of impact bumper 911s is actually pretty logical. Nice ones have value. Coupes have value. A nice '72 911S coupe sold yesterday on BAT for around $130k+fees, which was very reasonable compared to a couple years ago. It was not top-flight original paint incredible but it was plenty nice and not a rusted POS.

Anyone can buy any old 911 on a public site today, you just need to open your checkbook. You cannot say that about other more rare and collectible cars.

[Jrboulder]

OTOH it just makes you more unique to be driving around in an old Porsche.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by ramonesfreak

Btw, in the early 90s I lived in Akron OH.

I am sorry to hear that.

I got so many Rochester/Buffalo stories it ain't funny. SOHIO/BP was in Niagra Falls with Carborundum. Phaudler was in Rochester. I was a traveling internal auditor with the SOHIO Chemicals and Industrial Products Division.

2nd best story is a lady at Pfaudler was padding payroll for her boyfriend. A big 50 cents an hour padding. They said I caught it which I didn't but I was down with them blaming me, for their ease. Fired her and her boyfriend. My car's windows were busted out at the hotel next morning. Avis brought me a Cadillac and the poor grunt had to drive the Pontiac back to the Avis home base in January.

[ramonesfreak]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

I am sorry to hear that..

Haha my thoughts exactly. Didn’t want to offend you but it was the worst damn place I’ve ever lived. Couldn’t wait to get out. I liked Cleveland, even then. It’s much nicer now though. And the park lands around Akron we’re pretty nice but nothing like New York’s finger lakes region. Made me appreciate this dump of a place

[astrochex]

This topic brings back the regret I felt when I traded in my 82 911SC. How I wish I had the car today.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by astrochex

This topic brings back the regret I felt when I traded in my 82 911SC. How I wish I had the car today.

My plate has been: '88 IXXI ....for a long time.

Mebbe I'll change it to: NO Regerts!

....and move to Montana

[McLovin]

I just opened up my hard copy of Panorama mag and flipped to the back.
The classifieds are loaded with 78-89 911s for under $50k.
The number available surprised even me, so many.
The reasonable prices even more so.
Even 20 years ago, Pano was a place where owners tended to be on the “optimistic” side, price wise. But today they seem priced realistically.

Originally Posted by McLovin

I just opened up my hard copy of Panorama mag and flipped to the back.
The classifieds are loaded with 78-89 911s for under $50k.
The number available surprised even me, so many.
The reasonable prices even more so.
Even 20 years ago, Pano was a place where owners tended to be on the “optimistic” side, price wise. But today they seem priced realistically.

I agree. There is a glut of cars on the market that is pulling prices down. I'm all in favor if that. I prefer that investors go somewhere else.

[KFC911]

I figure I have something really special....

A Steve Wong chip and a 911 that hasn't grenaded...is Loren still beating that drum....or has the bass solo begun

[stevej37]

I drive both of mine often in the summertime...weather permitting.
15 and 20 years of ownership...they both run great.

[Daves911L]

Originally Posted by manbridge 74

Owners are entering the curmudgeon stage of life. The c&c’s, car shows, Luftgetfuched, PCA events? Nope, the car, some tools, the open road — these are enough for some.

Well said!

Our '88 travels regularly, all over the country. We rarely see other 911s, except when on the california coast.

We did the PCA thing 35+ years ago, and it was fun. But current car culture is just for fancy pants with pecans, chili peppers, and ceramic brakes that will never get hot enough to work right.

[Daves911L]

Oh, and the 356's get used too! Road trip to Arizona (the high part!) last month with friends.

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by Daves911L

Well said!

Our '88 travels regularly, all over the country. We rarely see other 911s, except when on the california coast.

We did the PCA thing 35+ years ago, and it was fun. But current car culture is just for fancy pants with pecans, chili peppers, and ceramic brakes that will never get hot enough to work right.

You forget Boxster
Boxster leasers.

[speeder]

The other factor is the long time air-cooled guys are getting really, really old these days. I'm 60 and feel like a kid at some of those gatherings, where the really great early 911S and 356s are. The literature and memorabilia show looked like a nursing home. It made me kind of sad.

[Jim Richards]

Originally Posted by speeder

The other factor is the long time air-cooled guys are getting really, really old these days. I'm 60 and feel like a kid at some of those gatherings, where the really great early 911S and 356s are. The literature and memorabilia show looked like a nursing home. It made me kind of sad.