Trailer Positioning Service Needed - San Diego

[otto_kretschmer]

Java,

how about this:

get a long tape measure and measure the geometry of your drive way, at least the corner

then find a place where you can replicate the driveway with cones and just see if you can make the corner using your jeep?

I don't think you will have a problem with the elevation change and I don't see you having a problem with traction either

I think you are over-thinking this a bit

and make sure the trailer tires are inflated on the high side, but maybe not max

the jeep has such a short wheel base that you shouldn't have a problem making that corner

[rfuerst911sc]

Does the trailer have a wheel on the tongue Jack ? If it does you can take some of the weight off the front of the Jeep .

[vash]

I bet that Jeep could move it far enough to come back at it with a bigger truck. 4Lo can move a load.

If not. How about ratchet strapping a few engine dollies on the tongue do you can push the trailer. straight. Then a jeep already position on the other side can tow it up while ties off to the trailer frame. Just move it enough until you can ge back on it with a big truck.

[vash]

Originally Posted by JavaBrewer

Some humorous responses above Yeah I think my Wrangler could manage but I'm a novice with trailers and terrified I will get pinned in and stuck - 30 ft overall length and 6K lbs is one hell of a road block haha. I spent an hour with my neighbors full size truck practicing turns, reversing, and reverse turning in a large parking lot. He let me use his yard - straight shot in (the big space in the aerial picture) to park it while I figure this out. Leaving Vons yesterday - got beer for the YouTube video , I saw a guy with a bobcat and trailer and asked if could move a trailer. Got his number and will call next week to setup a consult. I'll update later once the dust has settled. Thanks again to all who responded here!

Edit- I can see the benefit of a front bumper mount for my Jeep but at 800 lb hitch weight I'm worried it will be too much. Stuck trailer & broken front suspension...Winning!

Oh. Damn.


My trailer store near my office uses a forklift. He stacks them tight on his lot. That forklift can pirouette a tight radius. Maybe call a trailer dealership?

A bobcat loader could move that easy.

[group911@aol.co]

Um, if you think too much tongue weight is the issue, put 400# of sand bags at the back of the trailer and you'll have no tongue weight. Your Jeep could do it in a heartbeat. You might be overthinking the whole thing.

Originally Posted by JavaBrewer

Some humorous responses above Yeah I think my Wrangler could manage but I'm a novice with trailers and terrified I will get pinned in and stuck - 30 ft overall length and 6K lbs is one hell of a road block haha. I spent an hour with my neighbors full size truck practicing turns, reversing, and reverse turning in a large parking lot. He let me use his yard - straight shot in (the big space in the aerial picture) to park it while I figure this out. Leaving Vons yesterday - got beer for the YouTube video , I saw a guy with a bobcat and trailer and asked if could move a trailer. Got his number and will call next week to setup a consult. I'll update later once the dust has settled. Thanks again to all who responded here!

Edit- I can see the benefit of a front bumper mount for my Jeep but at 800 lb hitch weight I'm worried it will be too much. Stuck trailer & broken front suspension...Winning!

[wayner]

Jeep 3500lb front hitch
350 lb tongue weight on a jeep
https://www.etrailer.com/question-9920.html

[wayner]

or this!

https://trailervalet.com

[tevake]

While you have that tape out measuring the corner, it would be illuminating the stretch it out tight across the dip and measure the clearance at the center.

Driving my rig all over the country these last few years has helped me develope a good eye for spots that will hang up my rig. And your dip has that look.

You can see the rear overhang that I deal with. Check the overhang on the trailer.


from my reading those power dollies don't have the power to deal with much more than flat terrain.

Looking at your pics, the trailer does have pretty good ground clearance. Did you have a go at getting it in there already ?

Cheers Richard

[JavaBrewer]

Originally Posted by group911@aol.co

Um, if you think too much tongue weight is the issue, put 400# of sand bags at the back of the trailer and you'll have no tongue weight. Your Jeep could do it in a heartbeat. You might be overthinking the whole thing.

Originally Posted by otto_kretschmer

I think you are over-thinking this a bit

Very plausible. My wife would agree 100%. I am a total novice with trailers and frankly a bit intimidated. The likely situation is that you all will get the "hold my beer" Youtube video but it will end well I will have on hand the gravel bags to raise the trailer. I know for certain that it will bind front/back depending on pulling or backing. Ready for that. Will not spend the money on a front hitch. This is a "one and done" placement. No intentions of moving the trailer out of here until the time is upon me. I prefer pulling it in being the novice and lacking good rear visibility. As folks have said my Jeep has a good turning radius, well it's a LJ so not the best radius, but for sure better than the GMC 3/4 ton truck that tried previously. I will pull the entire distance 4L and hope for the best.

Originally Posted by wayner

or this!

https://trailervalet.com

If I could rent one I would be on it like white on rice.

Yes I did the measurements, even towed a string with marked distance to the end point with straight runs to mark the trailer frame. It will be tight but doable as long as I remain calm and drink lots of beer in the process Again I am overwhelmed with the PPOT community for the great advice and humor.

[otto_kretschmer]

YOU CAN DO IT

and if you screw up you don't know me

[KFC911]

Either hire "a guy" or take videos and post them here!

Good luck David...we're here to help a brother out..AND for amusement

[cabmandone]

FWIW, in the time we've spent debating this I would have had the thing on the lot with a skid loader and a trailer spotter attachment.

[KFC911]

^^^^ but we won't find that amusing and won't keep this thread going!

Yer on thin ice...thread killer

It's what we dooooooo...

[vash]

damn. JB..i wish i was closer. i'd take a swing at that with my tacoma.

i think bigger trailers are ironically easier to steer. they pivot slower and more predictably. i still get occasionally twisted up with those fast acting tiny utility trailers.

your Jeep could park that thing. turning radius while backing is vastly different than turning radius going forward.

[Zeke]

I think pushing is a bad idea going into and out of that dip. I'd feel much more comfortable pulling it. When you get it in to position it doesn't matter which end is facing out, right? Maybe you covered this but is there any room anywhere along the straight part for the tow vehicle to slip past the trailer?

One more thought is to put you gravel down and cover it with thick plywood, like 1 1/8th flooring. You can attach chains to the edge and stake them really well to prevent any slippage. 2-3 sheets might be alll you need. I'd feel better about 'pushing' if the dip was mitigated. And if you get a tractor operator see if you can find one with some sheets of steel like the ones they use in the street to cover excavation.

If all else fails, you could bridge the rear frame members and put a hitch on the back. Weight it down and pull it in. Richard mentioned using the tongue jack with a wheel (hopefully a larger pneumatic one) to aid the process. I think on most cases that would be dicey but that's in 'most' cases. Someone would have to be in attendance on the jack every inch of the way.

I'm all for watching Vash do the job with the Tacoma. Where do I get a ticket?

[vash]

Originally Posted by Zeke

I'm all for watching Vash do the job with the Tacoma. Where do I get a ticket?

i just need a spotter that knows what a true 6" looks like.

[vash]

man..that last pic. that corner is TIGHT!!

i'm feeling sick that day. whoa.

can you disassemble a few panels on the inside corner?

[LEAKYSEALS951]

I got ya' covered!

Mount a couple of under the rear of your trailer and back it right in:



Once the trailer bottoms out in the ditch and all the weight is on the dollies (and the tires are in the air)- go push the rear of the trailer sideways to line it up with the straight part of the driveway.

- and then back it on up the driveway like a champ!

[LEAKYSEALS951]

Originally Posted by LEAKYSEALS951

I got ya' covered!

Mount a couple of under the rear of your trailer and back it right in:



Once the trailer bottoms out in the ditch and all the weight is on the dollies (and the tires are in the air)- go push the rear of the trailer sideways to line it up with the straight part of the driveway.

- and then back it on up the driveway like a champ!

(obviously- you'd need the next size up in dolly- like perhaps say a $30 HF dolly- oh- and some really big mongo sized friends to push the trailer sideways when it gets up on the turn)

[MBAtarga]

You just need some training wheels on the trailer...




Training wheels on my Porsche