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Cajundaddy 06-27-2019 02:52 PM

I have been in your area but don't know the protocol for this. In CA nuisance bears will be trapped, tagged, and relocated to deep wilderness. Many continue to re-offend and present a threat to hunters and backpackers, but if he is 500 miles away he won't bother you much.

RWebb 06-27-2019 03:46 PM

if you can't get rid of the chickens, toss M-80s at the bear as often as possible

the chickens will attract another bear later on

Rawknees'Turbo 06-27-2019 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by varmint (Post 10505633)
You cannot imagine the hassle of killing a bear out of season. Disposing of the carcass, you’re not allowed to save anything, while fish and game crawls up your ass demanding you prove it was self defense.

Would prefer to avoid the whole situation.

I hadn't considered that. Here in TexASS you can shoot and kill a stranger on your property, after dark, and there are no repercussions for it (you can even lay in wait on the roof of your business, and mow down would-be thieves that are running for their lives, and not have to fear the law).

I don't hunt, or anything of the sort, and am generally a live and let live person, but holy shiit, I would not give a bear any slack at all (line it up an mow it down if even remotely a threat).

afterburn 549 06-27-2019 05:42 PM

A large mature male Black bear does not get too excited about anything.
He plods along.

Looks right through you.

You are not on the menu (usually).

Tell people to take the opportunity to learn about nature and what THEY are doing is wrong .
Not the bear.
Blaming the bear for being hungry is stupid.
That is a city slicker wanting to be a Fredy farmer ...getting back to nature and killing everything in the way.

tevake 06-27-2019 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajundaddy (Post 10505719)
I have been in your area but don't know the protocol for this. In CA nuisance bears will be trapped, tagged, and relocated to deep wilderness. Many continue to re-offend and present a threat to hunters and backpackers, but if he is 500 miles away he won't bother you much.

This is what I was thinking. Does you local Fish and Game Dept.take this sort of action to deal problem bears up there?
Give them a call.

I spent a summer sailing out of Seward doing five day outings with U of A students , beautiful area.

Cheers Richard

afterburn 549 06-27-2019 06:24 PM

If you take a bear out of his habit that it is likely it will die.

The sow is the training vessel for the next generation passed down, passed down .
If she is removed that lineage is gone, gone forever.
Pretty sad to think about.
That knowledge is gone.
If the male (or female) is moved he would have to learn a whole new food geographical.
Typically it does not work.
All the collages on the world seem to miss the larger points. An animal is an animal as the forest and co contingent.
Symbiotic until a something is deleted then all is lost.

Cajundaddy 06-27-2019 06:47 PM

Maybe layers of defense is the only option.
- Airtight/beartight chicken feed containers so it is less attractive.
- Remove all bird feeders.
- Electric barrier fencing.

Just like other hunters, vandals and burglars, a hardened target will encourage the bears to move on down the road to easier prey.

wdfifteen 06-27-2019 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by varmint (Post 10505633)
You cannot imagine the hassle of killing a bear out of season. Disposing of the carcass, you’re not allowed to save anything, while fish and game crawls up your ass demanding you prove it was self defense.

Would prefer to avoid the whole situation.

I would at least notify Fish and Game. If you do have to kill it, it would help your self defense defense.

afterburn 549 06-28-2019 01:10 AM

If you have to kill it MEANS you left the *door open and something else will come through it, , be it foxes. raccoons. .endless list.
Try to be smarter than the wildlife.....coexist
.
* anything that makes it EZ for them to get at your stuff

rusnak 06-28-2019 01:14 AM

When we had a cabin in the Sierra Nevadas, we would notify the local law enforcement. They tend to have a more local take on things than the Feds. Their reports take into account a bit more of the local safety etc. Standard ops would be to not use trash cans outside. A bear proof dumpster, no animals outside, walk your dog with a flashlight and pistol at night, and never leave food in a non airtight container even inside the cabin at night. Bears would rip open the side of a cabin for a leftover fish dinner in late winter or early spring. Leave killing the bears to those who are experienced at it. Give the bear a large swath and let it make someone else it's lunch. It's going to either be killed or relocated. That picture is really alarming.

rusnak 06-28-2019 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 10506059)
If you have to kill it MEANS you left the *door open and something else will come through it, , be it foxes. raccoons. .endless list.
Try to be smarter than the wildlife.....coexist
.
* anything that makes it EZ for them to get at your stuff

That bear is walking around near people during the day. It is not really a "bear" per se anymore. It is a dangerous predator that has decided to move in danger close. It's a matter of time now.

afterburn 549 06-28-2019 02:04 AM

Not true at all.
Male bears are badass and present a male attitude.
Aloof.
Look past you-ignore you.
They will ignore you as that is their body language.
Learn it.
The amount of Black bear attacks is like the Shark attack!, -it gets all the attention but your car is 1000 times more dangerous.

People need to be educated about their trash, bird food, etc.
No bear will hang where there is no reward for doing so.'
They can't afford it.
It is purely that simple.
If we decide to kill everything we perceive a threat we are in trouble.

KFC911 06-28-2019 02:08 AM

^^^ Most of us don't know anything about bears....we don't need to :). Peacefully coexist....until ya can't ....YMMV.

Good luck!

afterburn 549 06-28-2019 02:26 AM

I am somewhat of an expert and no fool.
Bears are not able to go to the store -every meal is hard earned.
If you provide for them they shall show up.
Just because they do show up in no way means they want to eat a person.
It is simple as this pic, where I saw several grazing hay like cattle.
They had other choices.

Learn the patterns and behaviors -

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1561717441.jpg

DaveE 06-28-2019 03:43 AM

We had a black bear problem til we got rid of the bird feeders. No more problems.

UconnTim97 06-28-2019 04:37 AM

My parents have been seeing a lot of bears in Connecticut lately.

Their back yard seems to be on this family's path. The bears usually pass on through.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1561725136.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1561725157.jpg

The bears tend to leave Bambi alone.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1561725192.jpg

Sorry for the poor quality photos. Screen grabs from their security system.

sc_rufctr 06-28-2019 04:44 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1561725841.jpg

RWebb 06-28-2019 01:08 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1561756093.jpg

afterburn 549 06-28-2019 01:28 PM

Hoe Puurrrrect ! ^^

Bob Kontak 06-28-2019 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by varmint (Post 10505536)
I live on the kenai peninsula. Bears are a part of life. But they leave us alone. We leave them alone. Too many pets and livestock and kids around. This bear is looking to have a bad end.

What routinely happens if the bear is not convinced it's in the wrong place?

The comment he/she got a taste of chicken has to be valid. Easy grub.

Are you allowed to kill it?

I like the relocation idea but is that the norm? It does take resource.


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