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RWebb 06-28-2019 02:51 PM

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varmint 06-28-2019 08:26 PM

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slow&rusty 06-29-2019 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by varmint (Post 10505443)
My wife saw him by our lake a few days ago.

You're encroaching on their natural habitat not the other way round

KFC911 06-29-2019 02:32 AM

That bear looks HUGE....compared to black bears I've seen in the mtns here....they seem to co-exist here....somewhat. My uncle has a big brown rug hanging on a wall (wouldn't fit on a 10' wall ;)), from around '70 from when he was in AK...

You live in a totally different world....and that's pretty cool :)....

Have ya tried slivers of Irish Spring....heard it works great ;)?

manbridge 74 06-29-2019 07:36 AM

Worked at a dude ranch in my 20s. Bear interdiction was part of the job. Non-lethal methods worked well. Lathing down broom sticks into wooden plugs, or wax plugs all to work with 12 gauge pump. This was after the DOW refused to hand out any more rubber slugs or bean bag rounds. I suppose some guy somewhere used them for other purposes. Lots of interesting non-lethal rounds on ye olde inter web.

varmint 06-29-2019 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by slow&rusty (Post 10507159)
You're encroaching on their natural habitat not the other way round



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am going into town next week to discuss some of these less than lethal rounds with my gunsmith.

varmint 06-29-2019 12:03 PM

I expect a few .308s in the dirt near his ass will be as effective as any beanbag round. If he doesn’t get the message from that he never will.

BlueWing 06-29-2019 12:32 PM

I have lived with them for years. Even had one that would be in my yard often enough to chat. He would come by I would go out and have a discussion. He would allow me maybe 15-20 feet between us and be very calm. Some of the others not so good.

We had quite a few for many years but now the best thing that has curbed the encounters are all the Air BnBs. Those folks just don't know how to manage them so well. The bears have learned a schedule and leave us natives alone.


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Terry

gduke2010 06-29-2019 12:57 PM

Should be a good summer for bears here. Bushes are packed full of berries. I've never seen such a bumper crop.

RWebb 06-29-2019 01:11 PM

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BeyGon 06-29-2019 02:28 PM

When I was working in Alaska people used shotguns on them, seemed to move them.

speeder 06-29-2019 03:23 PM

I would hate to shoot a beautiful creature like that but if you do, you’re going to need some serious firepower. I’ve heard that a .357 round to the skull will really piss them off.

I agree w burner about avoiding that scenario if at all possible but also be prepared.

rusnak 06-29-2019 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 10507162)
EXACTLY.

Also, I wish everyone would spend a little time online (or wherever ) learning the bear language.
Serious.
When you see /hear them snapping their mouth open and shut, -get nervous as they are now upset and unpredictable.
They are nervous about you too!
NEVER ever play dead with a Black Bear .
That's a ploy for the Grizz, you might live through it, as you are being disciplined for being stupid.
In the RARE case IF a Blacky comes after you it is a totally different scenario, you are on the menu ( which is so rare )
Basically, learn to enjoy them as they are a circus to watch if you get to know their personalities.
Everyone's emotional goto is - just kill everything that might be a threat.
Remember the earth will not ever miss a human -it would mist the ant.

I have deep respect for your compassion. I am with you on your point to respect bears, respect their habitat, do not automatically assume that you need to kill them, etc.

But I want to point out that you're a really decent and good human. You're not a bear. Therefore your "human bad, bear good" point of view makes you a hypocrite of the first order. I think you might re-think your point to say that bad people are bad, good people are good. The same probably goes for bears.

afterburn 549 06-29-2019 11:23 PM

Your philosophical actuation is prompted by my aversion to most people seeing a bear first reflex is just eliminate it?
Pretty sure I am more near right then there are bad rogue bears. Philosophically speaking.


I have lived around bears most of my life-whilst I may have a romantic view of things at times, I am a realist.
Notice I have not ever been ate, eaten, attacked.
I do know the limitations and that is what most people should understand, not just with bears, but a holistic understanding of the space ship they stand on..

KFC911 06-30-2019 03:01 AM

^^^ Yer alright AB...my kinda guy...livin' in a different world than I do ;).

afterburn 549 06-30-2019 05:49 AM

What we have here is the Kill everything approach that might hurt us or the complete stupid romantic discipline that I call the "Treadwell syndrome."
Neither is correct.
As earthlings, we need to cultivate the garden.
The garden is a symbiotic relationship direct and indirect with everything.
Nothing can be singled out as adverse to it.
Humans are the catalyst for the good or the bad.

rusnak 06-30-2019 06:03 AM

When you go out to whisper to bears, keep in mind that you're endangering it's life.

That's because after it eats you, we gotta go kill it.

The best plan is to leave A LOT of room for the bear to go be a bear.

RWebb 06-30-2019 12:02 PM

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varmint 06-30-2019 12:15 PM

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Another chicken coop taken down last night. Neighbor sent this pic.

Eric Coffey 06-30-2019 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BeyGon (Post 10507657)
When I was working in Alaska people used shotguns on them, seemed to move them.

Many LEO and Fish & Game agencies in "bear-country" locales use shotguns with bear-scare type (cracker/banger) shells, rather effectively.
Same goes for security details on oil/gas operations in the Arctic for Polar Bears.


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