4500 years before the pyramids

[Rtrorkt]

Originally Posted by masraum

All sorts of interesting stuff about water levels
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_hypothesis

https://mappingignorance.org/2014/02/07/how-the-mediterranean-was-refilled/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2167731/Britains-Atlantis-North-sea--huge-undersea-kingdom-swamped-tsunami-5-500-years-ago.html

Potentially the source of the flood story in the bible and many other religious texts.

[tcar]

Originally Posted by Tervuren

I have to wonder what kinda motion happens with the supposed hit that made the gulf mexico happened.

Do things on the earth pop around a lot in an event like that?

The Gulf of Mexico was not formed by a 'hit'. It was just moving plate tectonics... N. America and S. America moved apart.


Are you talking about the 'dinosaur ending' meteorite? That hit the Yucatan peninsula on the edge of the Gulf. Did not change the coastline much, they don't think.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by tcar

The Gulf of Mexico was not formed by a 'hit'. It was just moving plate tectonics... N. America and S. America moved apart.


Are you talking about the 'dinosaur ending' meteorite? That hit the Yucatan peninsula on the edge of the Gulf. Did not change the coastline much, they don't think.

[JackDidley]

Originally Posted by Tobra

I also think that folks that are convinced they know how things were in prehistoric times are generally not nearly as clever as they believe themselves to be.

^^^^^^
This. Just because we have the internet, that does not make us smart.

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by tabs

They found a "made in China" stamp in the corner of the pyramids..

Now THAT is funny!

[Tervuren]

Originally Posted by masraum

I'm not an archeologist, and I didn't stay in any sort of hotel last night, but I think your uncle is right in many ways. I think lots of scientists over the years and possibly still many/most think that ancient man was primitive and couldn't figure much stuff out. I think that's short sited. I think a lot more went on than scientists think. I think man has always done a lot of traveling, probably mostly by foot or animal, but also by boat that science has always thought was unlikely. I think that a lot more was known by the folks way back than they are given credit for. Just because we don't have a written record doesn't mean that it wasn't complex.

Great Uncle, he was retired from being active on the front edge about the time I was born.

He lived a long trek away, wish I could have spent more time listening to him. Brilliant, very knowledgeable; he had an attribute I admire of some one who posses these, an attitude that acknowledged he could be dead wrong.

He could easily separate information from conjecture. In teaching, he would give the information and conjecture separately. Much of his contrarian conjecture is playing out in new information in my life time. The mainstream conjecture of his day is not fairing as well.

He made it known that our initial bias causes us to lower or raise the value of particular information in order to paint the picture we desire. You can create entirely different pictures from the same set of paint.

The more one knows the greater the boundaries of what they recognize they do not know.

I am not a firm believer in steady continuous unnoticeable change. Rapid change is becoming more and more evident.

[tabs]

Originally Posted by Tervuren

Great Uncle, he was retired from being active on the front edge about the time I was born.

He lived a long trek away, wish I could have spent more time listening to him. Brilliant, very knowledgeable; he had an attribute I admire of some one who posses these, an attitude that acknowledged he could be dead wrong.

He could easily separate information from conjecture. In teaching, he would give the information and conjecture separately. Much of his contrarian conjecture is playing out in new information in my life time. The mainstream conjecture of his day is not fairing as well.

He made it known that our initial bias causes us to lower or raise the value of particular information in order to paint the picture we desire. You can create entirely different pictures from the same set of paint.

The more one knows the greater the boundaries of what they recognize they do not know.

I am not a firm believer in steady continuous unnoticeable change. Rapid change is becoming more and more evident.

Yet your propensity to kill remains the same.

[tabs]

News flash the latest archaeological discovery in the hieroglypics in.Egypt reveals that the Rolling Stones played the Pyramids 4500 years ago. Their played list included Start Me Up.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by tabs

News flash the latest archaeological discovery in the hieroglypics in.Egypt reveals that the Rolling Stones played the Pyramids 4500 years ago. Their played list included Start Me Up.

Keef is actually starting to show a bit of wear & tear ya know....

...just as long as the guitar plays

[Rtrorkt]

I’m still waiting to see what they discover on Oak Island

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by masraum

I'm not an archeologist, and I didn't stay in any sort of hotel last night, but I think your uncle is right in many ways. I think lots of scientists over the years and possibly still many/most think that ancient man was primitive and couldn't figure much stuff out. I think that's short sited. I think a lot more went on than scientists think. I think man has always done a lot of traveling, probably mostly by foot or animal, but also by boat that science has always thought was unlikely. I think that a lot more was known by the folks way back than they are given credit for. Just because we don't have a written record doesn't mean that it wasn't complex.

Most of the scientists I have seen have stated that the "caveman" homo sapiens that goes back 200,000 years or possibly more, were as intelligent as modern day humans. They simply did not have the thousands of years of learning we have had to build on. If a time traveler could bring an infant form back then to today and put them in the same schools and modern environment of a first world nation they would be no different than the rest of humanity.

We are lucky enough to live in modern times.

[Rick Lee]

Old Steven Wright joke:

He picked up a hitchiker, who told him the US gov't. had paid a ton of money to research who had built the Egyptian Pyramids. He was pretty sure it was a guy named Eddie.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by Rtrorkt

I’m still waiting to see what they discover on Oak Island

I still watch reruns of Al Capone's vault...

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

Old Steven Wright joke:

He picked up a hitchiker, who told him the US gov't. had paid a ton of money to research who had built the Egyptian Pyramids. He was pretty sure it was a guy named Eddie.

Stone's stage manager....set builder extrordinaire...a stoner actually.

Yep...Eddie

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by Rtrorkt

I’m still waiting to see what they discover on Oak Island

Mud and rocks. It is lust like the show "Finding Bigfoot" that found the same thing and Oak Island, not a damn thing.

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by KC911

I still watch reruns of Al Capone's vault...

Are you expecting Geraldo Rivera will finally find something?

[tabs]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

Most of the scientists I have seen have stated that the "caveman" homo sapiens that goes back 200,000 years or possibly more, were as intelligent as modern day humans. They simply did not have the thousands of years of learning we have had to build on. If a time traveler could bring an infant form back then to today and put them in the same schools and modern environment of a first world nation they would be no different than the rest of humanity.

We are lucky enough to live in modern times.

Ohhh Geez now your bringing up TRUMP..

[tabs]

Originally Posted by red-beard

Are you expecting Geraldo Rivera will finally find something?

He did find a Stones tour Tee shirt from their Pyramids Tour 4500 years ago....... a empty bottle of Keiths Jack Daniels..and a few dead cock roaches..

[Tervuren]

Originally Posted by Rtrorkt

Potentially the source of the flood story in the bible and many other religious texts.

There is a problem with your opinion in that the survivors in surrounding regions would be in contact and thus not pass on a world wide flood legend.

Should those few that survive within the flood event attempt to pass on such a legend among themselves or their children; then within a time span of remembrance there would be contact with other peoples that survived or that were outside the flood event and this would end up in such a legend not passing on to successive generations.

Based on ancient historians that wrote down the spoken history of surrounding peoples, there appear to be in different parts of the world major flood events some occurring multiple times in the same region across different time spans.

You may point to these accounts and say "Aha, here is the source of the flood story in the bible", yet those recounting the flood story in the Bible might view what you point to as a separate smaller event. The knowledge was there.

It should also be noted that we have to deal with what has survived the savages of nature, warfare, and time.

[Rodsrsr]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

Most of the scientists I have seen have stated that the "caveman" homo sapiens that goes back 200,000 years or possibly more, were as intelligent as modern day humans. They simply did not have the thousands of years of learning we have had to build on. If a time traveler could bring an infant form back then to today and put them in the same schools and modern environment of a first world nation they would be no different than the rest of humanity.

We are lucky enough to live in modern times.

In other words cavemen were just men....