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dad911 08-01-2019 11:57 AM

Too freaky for coincidence
 
At a winery last sunday, for my mom's 90th birthday party, they had a few of these around the picnic area:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1564685596.jpg

I spoke to my son about it, we thought it would be cool in the backyard, but I never searched for these firepits/cauldrons on either my phone or home computers.

Today the above popped up in my facebook feed.

Am I being spied upon? Location based add? (google maps knew I was there, and others may buy after being in the same location)

:eek::eek:

flipper35 08-01-2019 12:01 PM

Everyone is spied on constantly.

Jeff Higgins 08-01-2019 12:02 PM

"He knows when you've been sleeping, he knows when you're awake, he knows if you've been bad or good so be good for goodness sake..." Except it ain't Santa anymore. It's real...

HardDrive 08-01-2019 12:07 PM

You are not crazy. I am absolutely convinced that there are apps our phones listening to us. WAY to many instances of that exact same thing. I talk to someone about some obscure product, and bingo, it show up in my facebook ads. I never searched for the product, only talked to someone about it.

Bugsinrugs 08-01-2019 12:18 PM

I had never seen those before and it was on my Facebook also

rockfan4 08-01-2019 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flipper35 (Post 10543636)
Everyone is spied on constantly.

This.

This February I was talking to a co-worker about a "Tacos are my Valentine" shirt, I thought it would be funny to get for Valentines day. She searched for the shirt on her computer and brought it up.

Another co-worker across the aisle joined in on the conversation, but didn't look anything up on either her computer or phone.

That night the same shirt we were looking at showed up on co-worker #2's Facebook feed.

Creepy.

dad911 08-01-2019 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugsinrugs (Post 10543663)
I had never seen those before and it was on my Facebook also

Also looks like a scam. They sell for alot more.

Facebook should be vetting ads for scams.

sc_rufctr 08-01-2019 12:32 PM

The winery company bought those cauldrons so the company that sells them knows the location of their product...

And your phone knows were it so if you logged onto a web browser to your Google account on your phone, Google are probably getting location data.
= Targeted advertising.

It may seem far fetched but it doesn't take a lot of data or bandwidth to do stuff like this.

BK911 08-01-2019 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 10543652)
You are not crazy. I am absolutely convinced that there are apps our phones listening to us. WAY to many instances of that exact same thing. I talk to someone about some obscure product, and bingo, it show up in my facebook ads. I never searched for the product, only talked to someone about it.

Heard a radio blurb couple of days ago that was discussing this exact thing.
Apparently the serie sp? and other voice commanded devices are sending data to the mother ship for them to scan to *better develop their product*.
They also discussed that some phones do the same thing.
Big brother is watching and listening. No doubt.

Neilk 08-01-2019 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BK911 (Post 10543699)
Heard a radio blurb couple of days ago that was discussing this exact thing.
Apparently the serie sp? and other voice commanded devices are sending data to the mother ship for them to scan to *better develop their product*.
They also discussed that some phones do the same thing.
Big brother is watching and listening. No doubt.

Sounds like you were listening to NPR.

After hearing that show, I dumped Chrome and went back to Firefox after not using it for 10 years. The number of trackers and cookies it is blocking is amazing. I don't really see any difference in functionality, but some of the menu navigation needs improving.

KFC911 08-01-2019 01:08 PM

Just quit goin' to the WICCA winery...freaky I tell ya ;)

john70t 08-01-2019 01:27 PM

Is this even a question anymore? Of course they are doing it and people just do not care.
The solution is to not buy these products or allow them in your lives.
Get a dumb phone and/or wrap the other in foil box until you want to use it.
There have been zero privacy laws enacted for two decades and it's not even remotely on the table.

https://www.theblaze.com/unleashed/google-nest-microphone
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/25/business/amazon-alexa-conversation-shared-echo.html
https://nypost.com/2019/07/29/apples-siri-routinely-records-you-having-sex/
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/google-voice-search-records-stores-conversation-people-have-around-their-phones-but-files-can-be-a7059376.html
http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps4/settings/facerecognition.html

herr_oberst 08-01-2019 02:05 PM

Those are some pretty spiffy Adirondacks! They look solid as hell!

Jeff Higgins 08-01-2019 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 10543652)
You are not crazy. I am absolutely convinced that there are apps our phones listening to us. WAY to many instances of that exact same thing. I talk to someone about some obscure product, and bingo, it show up in my facebook ads. I never searched for the product, only talked to someone about it.

Dayum. Maybe I should start b.s.ing with my buddies about Jessica alba, Elizabeth Hurly, and other such women...

masraum 08-01-2019 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peteremsley (Post 10543873)
Yep - my iPhone knows when it's thursday and gives me driving times to a local dive bar without my request. Thursday is 50c chicken wing night and I often meet a buddy there.

You can turn that off
https://www.imore.com/stop-iphone-tracking-frequent-locations

Tervuren 08-01-2019 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 10543895)
Dayum. Maybe I should start b.s.ing with my buddies about Jessica alba, Elizabeth Hurly, and other such women...

Jeff, back in the final weeks before I quit facebook; I used to write posts only I could see just to change the advertisements.

It would change the adds on the page at the current visit.

It never made any long term changes that I could see. My adds were probably demographically targeted.

IMO, this is location/friend based rather than "listening".

You may not have gone and looked it up, but how do you know someone around you didn't?

All it takes is targeting people that are together or know eachother; if one is interested, surely a friend is too?

aschen 08-01-2019 03:25 PM

My speculation is that those are unique enough items that several people at the winery looked them up on google. Google then used every bodies location data to spot a good opportunity for a targeted ad. I doubt it is the result of voice recognition of y'alls conversation...........but I may be in denial

stealthn 08-01-2019 04:39 PM

Android or IOS?

My wife and I are trying an experiment, we talk to each other about getting a good price on something obscure, I won’t name it hear to void our experiment but pick something there is no way someone would know you were interested in.

Repeat it, ask about where to find it and the best place to buy one.

So far no targeted ads, we are all Apple products.

Zeke 08-01-2019 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 10543652)
You are not crazy. I am absolutely convinced that there are apps our phones listening to us. WAY to many instances of that exact same thing. I talk to someone about some obscure product, and bingo, it show up in my facebook ads. I never searched for the product, only talked to someone about it.

If they listen to my phone their ears must hurt. Around one to a few guys and I have a dirty mouth.

daepp 08-01-2019 05:11 PM

I wonder sometimes if ads are popping up all the time that I just don't normally notice until I see the thing (eg the chairs) and then when I see them on FB I notice??

LakeCleElum 08-01-2019 07:21 PM

I have a few friends that claim same happens after they just talked about a product recently.

For me, I have a Yahoo email address I rarely use. When checking, I go thru the Yahoo home page.......A large percentage of their news headlines are:

1) Porsche 911
2) Formula I drama
3) Anti Trump......

sc_rufctr 08-01-2019 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daepp (Post 10544015)
I wonder sometimes if ads are popping up all the time that I just don't normally notice until I see the thing (eg the chairs) and then when I see them on FB I notice??

Maybe that's it. We see what we want to see.

island911 08-01-2019 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 10544173)
Maybe that's it. We see what we want to see.

And maybe we want to believe that automation is not doing what it seems to be doing. ;)

john70t 08-01-2019 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 10544008)
If they listen to my phone their ears must hurt. Around one to a few guys and I have a dirty mouth.

That may be literal..

A person I knew recently passed away from jaw cancer.
Supposedly holding the cell phone directly on the skin raises the radiation exposure to 10 times 'safe' levels.

Having even a slight air gap makes a difference.
(and with some people, you can just set it down and pick up the conversation ten minutes later)

sugarwood 08-01-2019 10:51 PM

So many clueless paranoid wingnuts here.
No, they are not targeting ads by spying.
Jesus F'ing Christ.

https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2018/12/28/18158968/facebook-microphone-tapping-recording-instagram-ads

island911 08-01-2019 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 10544241)
So many clueless paranoid wingnuts here.
No, they are not targeting ads by spying.
Jesus F'ing Christ.

https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2018/12/28/18158968/facebook-microphone-tapping-recording-instagram-ads

Don't be ridiculous, of course phone apps spy - well 'spy' may be too strong of a word being that "collecting data" is what EULA's call it.

The only Question is to what degree?

No need to spazz about and call people wing-nuts.

john70t 08-01-2019 11:32 PM

(Gee. I'm still wondering how the Zuke got so wealthy by providing a free product..)

wdfifteen 08-02-2019 02:08 AM

I listened to an interview on NPR about the subject of targeted ads and selling data. Google is bad about collecting and selling data about you, and Google Chrome is the worst browser as far as collecting cookies and selling your browsing habits. The guy did an experiment and switched from Chrome to Firefox and the number of cookies that were allowed in and the number of targeted ads dropped significantly. If you use gmail your emails are scanned for key words and the data is sold.

onewhippedpuppy 08-02-2019 02:44 AM

If you enable the “Hey Siri” functionality your phone is quite literally always listening to you. What it does with the data is another discussion altogether.

KFC911 08-02-2019 02:58 AM

I do keep "location services" disabled on my phome and JS is disabled. My dumbazz phone becomes "smarter".... only if I let it....to some degree....YMMV.

I sold my soul to Gmailhell before most of you even knew it existed....live & learn :(.

black_falcon 08-02-2019 03:22 AM

Same happened to me about a year ago. Really freaked me out. Then I starting noticing it more often. Items that I had recently talked about with people would appear as ads on my facebook newsfeed shortly after.

These devices/apps are listening to what we say. When you click yes to the permissions when installing apps, often times you are giving the software free roam of your device with access to contacts, photos, microphone, camera, etc.

Why I'm highly selective what I put and do on my phone.

dad911 08-02-2019 05:50 AM

We never mentioned the cauldrons by name. Must be location based.

Now I'm trying to get the add to pop up again, and see if I can really buy for $128. I think it's fake.

Baz 08-02-2019 05:56 AM

https://sayingimages.com/wp-content/...y-day-meme.jpg

LEAKYSEALS951 08-02-2019 06:33 AM

A while back I did a little experiment with Gmail. My wife and I would sent mock emails back and forth between us, using random key words, such as "thinking about buying a new Cadillac, need a new LG flatscreen" etc...

Sure enough, almost instantaneously, the specified ads would appear on the side. Google really does mine for keywords and uses it.

sugarwood 08-02-2019 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john70t (Post 10544255)
(Gee. I'm still wondering how the Zuke got so wealthy by providing a free product..)

By selling targeted ads based on the words you type.
Same with Google and Gmail.
This is common knowledge.

I'd rather get ads about my interests than about maxi pads

sugarwood 08-02-2019 07:50 AM

If you want to educate yourself, you should listen to this
https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/z3hlwr

is Facebook eavesdropping on my conversations and showing me ads based on the things that I say? This week, Alex investigates.
NOVEMBER 2, 2017

#109 Is Facebook Spying on You?
by REPLY ALL

island911 08-02-2019 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 10544486)
If you want to educate yourself, you should listen to this
https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/z3hlwr

is Facebook eavesdropping on my conversations and showing me ads based on the things that I say? This week, Alex investigates.
NOVEMBER 2, 2017

#109 Is Facebook Spying on You?
by REPLY ALL

I expect that ^this is classic reforming the question (narrowly) to claim it false - and by extension imply all similar claims as false.

BTW, the OP was talking bout LOCATION and a unique product at that location. (not eavesdropping on conversations)


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