Lies from the boss

[flatbutt]

May be time to move on...quietly. Having a moment of revenge isn't worth it. At least your initials imply that it shouldn't hurt too much.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by Chocaholic

Could be a million reasons for the scenario you described. Only you can decide if it’s worth the hassle and headaches with finding another job. In most cases, it’s not. Grass is rarely greener. As long as you’re on the employee side of the equation, lies, politics and game playing by management is not unique to your company.

Put it behind you.

Sound advice too imo! Only once did I give my resignation to the mgr that hired me....saw dozens (1/2/3/4 levels up) pass like sage brush as I endured the corporate(s) bs. My career moves were NOT because of $...never. That wuz icing .

[on2wheels52]

When I thought I deserved a raise I used to just steal more from the till (but then I was self-employed )

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by on2wheels52

When I thought I deserved a raise I used to just steal more from the till (but then I was self-employed )

It's different when ya sing Johhny Paycheck to yer own mirror too ...

....and yes....you deserved a raise!

Don't we all ?

[asphaltgambler]

Originally Posted by RWebb

send the Email just before you walk to a different job

This ^^^^^ boom - done^^^^

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

Maybe the other guy is just better than you and boss was being polite to you by saying no bonuses. Other than saying you didn't make the grade.

maybe

but it is his bosses job to discuss his performance with him

if there is no set perf. review, then maybe go in and ask him "How am I doing?"

but don't mention the lie until a new job is already certain

[Sooner or later]

Originally Posted by RWebb

maybe

but it is his bosses job to discuss his performance with him

if there is no set perf. review, then maybe go in and ask him "How am I doing?"

but don't mention the lie until a new job is already certain

Thie.

[KFC911]

Hell....I just go tell Pinochio what I thought about his lyin' azz ways on my way out the door

[Deschodt]

I've seen that happen where the boss is correct - no bonuses or raises, but that one guy was way underpaid and they brought him up to standard because they had to (pay bands, equity review, and all sort of bureaucratic crap)... Technically he may not be lying and the guy may be the exception they needed to fix... Maybe you don't know the whole picture. Or maybe you're right. I've always got my best raises by working elsewhere - if it bothers you, you should ask without snark. See if he lies again ;-)

[sammyg2]

Good employees leave bad bosses.
If an employee can go elsewhere and do better, he should.
If an employee can't go elsewhere and do better, then he should learn to be happy where he is.

About 16 years ago I was recruited by a company that made lots of promises of bonuses, paid incentives, etc. so I jumped ship and went to work for them.

The first year was a little rocky as I was making lots of changes.
By the end of the second year those changes were really paying off and we had exceeded all the goals described in the incentive promises.

My reward? A 3% raise and a 5% bonus. A small fraction of what they had promised.

I smiled and said thank you, and went back to my office and started making phone calls.
By the next day I had a good lead, and in a couple weeks I was working for a better company, doing a much better job, and making more money.
10 years later I was making several times as much as when I was employed by the promise-breakers.

[Macroni]

I would go see your boss. He knows you saw the screen.

He owes an explanation or he is lacking.....

[masraum]

Originally Posted by tabs

Did you lie to your employee to?

Pretty much every boss ever, and I think 95% or better, they were told that they had to by their boss.

Managers have access to lots of info that other employees don't, and will at one time or another have to lie to someone. Maybe in super small companies it's different, but I'd be surprised if that wasn't the way in all medium to large sized companies.

"We are doing great, everything is fantastic." always seems to come before lay-offs.

I've seen plenty of folks that were "laid off" because their "position was eliminated" when everyone knew it was a way to get rid of the low performers.

I've worked jobs where I was told "You won't get a bonus this year because you made over XX amount of over time, so we're going to save the bonus for the folks that didn't make as much over time." It was partially true, they had folks that they wanted to give a bonus to so that was an easy way for them to justify not giving out a bonus, but it flies in the face of logic. I came in and worked OT 99% of the time that I was asked to (and we were asked) and my metrics were always above average. I also always got a raise in that position. I know other folks that would get bonuses, but occasionally didn't get a raise.

I had a coworker that busted his hump one year to try to get a bonus, top of the scale in all of the metrics that were supposed to be used for grading. He got an "average" rating. The following year, he blew off all of the metrics and was towards the bottom of the list in all of them, but spent all of his time talking to the managers (there were several) and glad handing them. That year, he had the highest rating and got a bonus. That didn't surprise me at all and my OT far, far outpaced any bonus I would have gotten.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Deschodt

I've seen that happen where the boss is correct - no bonuses or raises, but that one guy was way underpaid and they brought him up to standard because they had to (pay bands, equity review, and all sort of bureaucratic crap)... Technically he may not be lying and the guy may be the exception they needed to fix... Maybe you don't know the whole picture. Or maybe you're right. I've always got my best raises by working elsewhere - if it bothers you, you should ask without snark. See if he lies again ;-)

Exactly, employees are RARELY going to have the big picture.

[Bill Douglas]

An example of a friendly lie.

The big boss said to me "Not much of an end of year bonus for everyone in the team. About $200 each. Miserable sods will probably complain that it's not enough, but it hasn't been a great year. You decide who gets what, you run with the problem."

So I said to the team "Hooray, I think the big boss is quite pleased with how well we've done in adverse conditions. and they're are PUTTING ON ONE HELL OF A CHRISTMAS PARTY for us in a local restaurant!."

[MBAtarga]

Years ago at a previous employer, I had a friend that was a supervisor (I reported elsewhere.) He told me that he and his peers were briefed by the Engineering VP as to the percentage average the company was given to distribute to the engineering department. So he and his peers went to work to rank direct reports and break out whom gets how much so the average was met. A few days later, after that meeting, he was in a different meeting (and audience) with the same VP - and that same VP mentioned the raise average percentage that he was given to spread. It was about 3% higher. So the VP gave his direct report supervisors a lower number than the "real" number, so that he could control the results himself.

[Gretch]

Originally Posted by LWJ

Yes. Get a new boss!

/\/\ This /\/\ beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Your boss does not behold any beauty in you. mebbe you is ugly?

BTW, tough crowd here............. specially unclebilly.......

toughen a feller up quick!

[yel911]

2 types of people I give no respect for.... salesmen and management. Their job is to lie.

[svandamme]

add politicians and lawyers (usually politicians are laywers these days)

[Rick Lee]

We were all in a conference room once while the boss was connecting his laptop to the overhead projector and we got a glimpse of an email about one of our co-workers getting a base salary bump. It was pretty awkward. But we all had different base salaries, so there was no telling if he had started out low and was being brought up to the higher bands. I had no room to complain, since I knew (well, later learned) I was making the most of any of them.

[biosurfer1]

Originally Posted by Deschodt

I've seen that happen where the boss is correct - no bonuses or raises, but that one guy was way underpaid and they brought him up to standard because they had to (pay bands, equity review, and all sort of bureaucratic crap)... Technically he may not be lying and the guy may be the exception they needed to fix...

No, technically he IS still lying. Just because there may be a good reason for an exception, doesn't mean that's an exception to the truth.

There were either no bonuses/raises...or not.