My wife says 'are you going to take the boy to see the latest John Wick?'.

Me, the IDPA competing, bird hunting, shotgun loving guy....I say 'no, I'm not'.

Do I have the capacity to enjoy the film without somehow accepting the premise as reasonable behavior? Yes, I think after almost 50 years I've got a pretty good grip on reality. But a new teenager facing a constant barrage of 'sky is falling' and mental illnesses paraded as bravery (transgenders, etc) taking that in and understanding it's just a show? No, I'm not going to be a party to that. We've watched other shoot 'em up films together, i'll admit that. Heck it was a part of getting older when i was a kid. Your parents said 'hey check out this James Bond movie' and you felt like you just got a little older; it was a treat. But I'm out. I'm off the violence train.

The emotion, realism and overall volume of it has gotten out of control.

Rawanda?

(oh sorry, they used machetes and rocks)

I'd focus on "mass shootings" too since you know that every developed country has experienced mass murder... just a different tool to do the job.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jun/22/barack-obama/barack-obama-correct-mass-killings-dont-happen-oth/

You don’t get to “compromise” my rights.

Two weeks ago in japan an arsonist murdered thirty animators. Crazy people find a way. Focusing on inanimate objects shows a primitive understanding of the cause and effect relationship. And a fear of dealing with the real problems.

Data is good:

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-deadliest-mass-shootings-in-history.html

https://crimeresearch.org/tag/concealed-handguns-stopped-mass-public-shooting/

Read this and follow the links:

https://nypost.com/2018/08/30/america-doesnt-actually-lead-the-world-in-mass-shootings/

Here is the issue, laid bare: We have a problem. Can we have a rational discussion or not?

As I said earlier, the Constitution is not a death sentence.

The First and Second need to be seriously rethought relating to culture and technology. The First needs limitations as they pertain to effecting culture and behavior. The Second is as relevant today as the 18th was exactly 100 years ago. I'm not for banning guns but I am for strict education and regulations in order to own them.

I also like to think about actions today, right now, taking effect 50 years into the future. 100 years even.

The NRA killed Government tracking and analysis of the firearm industry. I seem to recall that was reversed, at least somewhat, but if it hasn't, it needs to be now.

Hollywood has had a “gun culture” from the beginning. Ever hear of John Wayne? What was lost is the concept of good guy and bad guy. I like John wick. But it has minimal morality. Just glorified killing.

I believe you are being obtuse on purpose. We don't need that. Thank you.

Would you pass? Or is it more likely that you would be straight jacketed on the spot?

Well, I guess this meme is no good.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1565034405.jpg


Seriously, you claim "epidemic of mass shootings" . . . epidemic!?

How does it look compared to this "epidemic" ?


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1565034697.JPG
per Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_strike

I think the realism of the violence and also the emotion of it has escalated in significant fashion since The Duke ruled the roost.

so we agree there is a problem then? that's a good start.

sorry dude, rights will be compromised in order to effectively deal with the problem. Not a question of if...its a question of when and how much. perhaps the compromise won't be to ban a certain type of weapon, but instead will be some form of "thought police" where authorities look at social media and try to stop the crazy people before they do the mass killings. either way, we all gonna be losing some rights. thing is, if everyone is so deeply entrenched on their respective side and unwilling to participate in discussing a mutually acceptable compromise, the eventual action that will be forced upon us will likely be worse.

who is afraid of dealing with real problems?

I believe you don’t understand what “obtuse” means.

c'mon, Raw, their not going to straight jacket a Black Lesbian woman trapped in a White mans's body. So un-PC to even suggest such a thing.

Games like Grand Theft Auto are far worse for the psyche than a lot of the other stuff out there. It glorifies the thug culture.

There used to be thought police. Only we called them churches, teachers and two parent households.

After several generations of leftist assault on these institutions we are facing damaged and scary young males running around barely held together by Ritalin type drugs. Faced with this problem I can see why you would rather talk about inanimate objects.

The old Bond movies are a campy fun type of movie. I don't mind the kids seeing the old Connery or Moore films. My then 8 year old watch "To Hell and Back" with me a while back. Some of the old movies made you realize that was someone's father/son/brother that was being killed.

There are a few out now that are a good "true" story but still way too violent for them to watch. Like Lone Survivor.

No, i have used it correctly. Some synonyms to help you: stupid, dull, slow-witted, slow, dull-witted, unintelligent, witless, half-baked, halfwitted, doltish, lumpish, blockish, imperceptive

2017 FBI Expanded Homicide Stats

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8.xls

Total 15,129
Firearms 10,982
Within firearms cat
Handguns 7,032
Rifles 403
Shotgun 264
Other 187
Unk 3096

Knives 1,591
Blunt object 467
Hands/fist/feet 696

I don't think we need a media focused on creating a highly-reactive culture either.
(I made bold to read better)

A society unable to roll over the bumps in life is a society unable to navigate dirt roads. That in itself is limiting..


Remember when it took a solid hour to get through a Walter Cronkite story?
In the meantime, the viewer was able to stop and think for themselves.