Apparently you can. Equally you can dismiss accessibility of mass killing devices aspect. Without compromise, nothing will be done and more people with serious mental illness will kill groups of innocents with mass killing devices.

wrong!

You’ve come up with an exception! Nice going. Now try to be honest and evaluate what is going on presently.

It is when you make the claim that the only way to stop mass casualty events is to take away guns.

That is, you insist that the problem is not the killer/person but is the gun.

Oh, let's hope that the police shot the killers gun first, because, you know, the gun was the problem. Let's hope that once the killer was shot that the gun didn't carry on targeting people>

GOP baseball game shooting?

I'd like to be if not the first at least one of the first people to put to rest the idea of "easily obtainable guns" to rest. When I was growing up in the 70's..80's you could buy a gun much easier. I could walk into any pawn shop and buy a gun with no background check. Same can't be said today. As for mental health not being the issue, that's just ridiculous. No person in their right mind would do what these people have been doing. Saying that it's not a mental health issue is simply false. Too many things need to be looked into and fully disclosed to the public.

Fort hood?

It is simply primitive think to blame the inanimate object.

I wonder if there is a statistical connection between the frequency of mass killings and the presence of a leader that gets off on publically kicking up shiit storms whenever he has the opportunity (typically done via social media)? I suppose that would be easy enough to determine.

If this were the case, the Paris theater attack should not have been possible. Nor all of the mass murder in Mexico. Or conversely, the mass shootings should be FAR higher in the US than in Mexico, since there is almost one firearm per person in the USA.

The issue is the people. Focus on what makes someone be a mass murderer, no matter what type.

1. Loner (almost universal)
2. Bullied (almost universal)
3. Somehow disaffected.
4. Age 17-25 (about 90%)
5. Not successful in life (about 80%)
6. Liberal (70%) - Take a look at the stats...

Let's not forget, there was a term for the guy shooting up his workplace: Going Postal. There were a bunch of mass shootings at post offices in the 1990s.

Spotting the guy like the Las Vegas shoot is tough. Older, well off guy with no apparent motive.

Mass murderers existed before video games and the internet. But I think the victim culture mixed with social media and mass media further pushes many of the young.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_New_York_City_truck_attack


Why does no one else remember these cases?

No go, Denis said recently. You must narrow down the time frame. Try the last forty eight hours. What you got?

For sure, terrorism is on the rise from more than one front. Why the extreme reluctance by some to acknowledge right wing, white nationalist terrorism? It seems to be the fastest growing segment.

Nope, doesn't count.

Faster than "some people"?

I think the victim culture is a major player - woe is me, my life sucks (thanks to all the many unfair external influences, or course) so Im'ma get me some payback.

Whatever dude. If you were paying attention, I’m agreeing that we shouldn’t blame ONLY the inanimate object. I’m arguing mental health is an issue. However, failing to acknowledge availability of military type weapons is (in my opinion) as ridiculous as saying there’s not a mental health issue at play here.

But sure...I am the primitive one in this thread.

Honestly, of all the people I don’t agree with here to a greater or lesser degree, I consider you to be on the extreme fringe of racist and stupid. I have no interest in trying to persuade you of anything and there is zero chance of being enlightened by you. Please fk off. :cool:

It is far easier to blame a gun as being problematic than to look at yourself.

This is all on Trump and the GOP. Encouraging “us” vs. “them.” All of “our” problems are due to “them.” Encouraging elimination of “them.” Standing back and wringing hands when “us” takes action against “them.” Trump and the GOP are accessories to murder.

Putin is very happy with his puppets.