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madcorgi 08-05-2019 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 10548534)
Here you go, Corgi

Glock 19, 9 mm, 15+1 rounds

Practice up--you have to kill 9 people and shoot a dozen more in 30 seconds to beat a rookie with an AR15. Suggest you skip the classic ending of the SIGW, but if you do decide to go that route, please put the round in your head so your organs can be harvested.

Rawknees'Turbo 08-05-2019 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ian c2 (Post 10548652)
. . .

Surprisingly , it’s over 60 years old and it’s pages still aren’t stuck together :D

And there it is! If you decide to put on body armor and a ski mask, and go commando at a local, crowded area with your mail-order AR15 homebuilt (different than the typical definition for "going commando" :eek:), we'll know the cause (pencil drawn porn and easy access to weaponry)!!!

fintstone 08-05-2019 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ian c2 (Post 10548652)
...Surprisingly , it’s over 60 years old and it’s pages still aren’t stuck together :D

Yep. Definitely not quite the same as what is on the internet today.

ian c2 08-05-2019 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 10548657)
And there it is! If you decide to put on body armor and a ski mask, and go commando at a local, crowded area with your mail-order AR15 homebuilt (different than the typical definition for "going commando" :eek:), we'll know the cause (pencil drawn porn and easy access to weaponry)!!!



Yip .

I’ll make my hasty retreat wearing my “man shoes” ...

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daepp 08-05-2019 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by varmint (Post 10548083)
There used to be thought police. Only we called them churches, teachers and two parent households.

After several generations of leftist assault on these institutions we are facing damaged and scary young males running around barely held together by Ritalin type drugs. Faced with this problem I can see why you would rather talk about inanimate objects.

^This^ That's certainly it. Very eloquent and succinct. And spot on!

madcorgi 08-05-2019 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by daepp (Post 10548661)
^This^ That's certainly it. Very eloquent and succinct. And spot on!

And evidence-free! But the ritalin part--man that was inspired. Always insert the emo buzzword. HILLARY!

ian c2 08-05-2019 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 10548659)
Yep. Definitely not quite the same as what is on the internet today.

Yeah , most mornings I can hardly open the screen cover on my iPad ...

daepp 08-05-2019 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 10548117)
Suicide-by-gun and self-defense included in those stats?
(I bet they are)

No - suicide by firearm is another 40K + deaths.

ian c2 08-05-2019 08:17 PM

Would any of these incidents be fueled by a feeling of alienation , and ultimately the feeling that other’s lives don’t carry any worth as you’ve been belittled and told your life and views are immaterial and ultimately WRONG making yourself feel “worthless” ?

Arizona_928 08-05-2019 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by madcorgi (Post 10548651)
Not even close. Here's how a doc who dealt with the Parkland victims described it:

Routine handgun injuries leave entry and exit wounds and linear tracks through the victim’s body that are roughly the size of the bullet. If the bullet does not directly hit something crucial like the heart or the aorta, and the victim does not bleed to death before being transported to our care at the trauma center, chances are that we can save him. The bullets fired by an AR-15 are different: They travel at a higher velocity and are far more lethal than routine bullets fired from a handgun. The damage they cause is a function of the energy they impart as they pass through the body. A typical AR-15 bullet leaves the barrel traveling almost three times faster than—and imparting more than three times the energy of—a typical 9mm bullet from a handgun. An AR-15 rifle outfitted with a magazine with 50 rounds allows many more lethal bullets to be delivered quickly without reloading.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/02/what-i-saw-treating-the-victims-from-parkland-should-change-the-debate-on-guns/553937/

I think you need to do more research... or at least find references that are factual vs that further your anti 2nd amendment train of thought. It is a very well known fact that the 223/5.56 has a poor stopping effect due to the velocity being so great, and the fact that the bullets don't tumble. The reason why the 7.62x39 has been used a lot lately by wackos, and all non-nato countries. is the fact that the rounds tumble when they hit gel blocks. They just don't breeze through it like a piece of paper. Article is biased.

Arizona_928 08-05-2019 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 10548609)
Like moving away from church, community, etc...just a gradual subordination of morals and seeing others (and sometimes themselves) as valuable members of a just society. It manifests itself in shootings like these, suicides and drug addiction/ODs.

I agree. Morals, and ethics are what religion and community strive for of the past. That said you don't need that to have ethics and morals. It's just easier to indoctorate the masses of a populous. That's just not how it works anymore...
One could even argue the push to be publicly different is also responsible for this behavor. Fake it until you make it, is now shoving acceptance down your throat.

john70t 08-05-2019 08:42 PM

The (conservative town of) Dayton shooter was an anti-ICE pro-Antifa satanist.
A raging leftist same as in Las Vegas.
Does that mean anything...right before the elections...so many people called it long ago...
https://www.rt.com/usa/465790-dayton-shooter-leftist-antifa/

He was stopped just before he could enter the building by armed men within 20 seconds. (police)
If they were not there, it would have been a much more serious massacre.

Video here:
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=a3C25_1564985205

Mask bulletproof vest and ear muffs. Well stocked.
This guy was armed and trained and a known Antifa member.
And there are senators promoting these people?

madcorgi 08-05-2019 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AZ_porschekid (Post 10548683)
I think you need to do more research... or at least find references that are factual vs that further your anti 2nd amendment train of thought. It is a very well known fact that the 223/5.56 has a poor stopping effect due to the velocity being so great, and the fact that the bullets don't tumble. The reason why the 7.62x39 has been used a lot lately by wackos, and all non-nato countries. is the fact that the rounds tumble when they hit gel blocks. They just don't breeze through it like a piece of paper. Article is biased.

Article is written by someone--a doctor--who has seen it. You aren't a doctor and you haven't seen it.

The article presents facts derived from experience. You present emotion derived from ignorance.

madcorgi 08-05-2019 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 10548702)
The (conservative town of) Dayton shooter was an anti-ICE pro-Antifa satanist.
A raging leftist same as in Las Vegas.
Does that mean anything...right before the elections...so many people called it long ago...
https://www.rt.com/usa/465790-dayton-shooter-leftist-antifa/

He was stopped just before he could enter the building by armed men within 20 seconds. (police)
If they were not there, it would have been a much more serious massacre.

Video here:
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=a3C25_1564985205

Mask bulletproof vest and ear muffs. Well stocked.
This guy was armed and trained and a known Antifa member.
And there are senators promoting these people?

What senators are promoting "these people?"

Interesting that you linked to RT (assuming you know what RT is.)

ian c2 08-05-2019 08:55 PM

Is this the same shooter that got kicked out of school years ago for having a “kill list” and a “rape list” ?

Maybe he wasn’t the right person to be allowed a gun ?

How many rounds did he let off before the excellent police response stopped him ?
+40 rounds in 30 seconds ?

Mmm ...


perhaps more has to be done ?


Keep that 5h1t on the battlefield





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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 10548702)
The (conservative town of) Dayton shooter was an anti-ICE pro-Antifa satanist.
A raging leftist same as in Las Vegas.
Does that mean anything...right before the elections...so many people called it long ago...
https://www.rt.com/usa/465790-dayton-shooter-leftist-antifa/

He was stopped just before he could enter the building by armed men within 20 seconds. (police)
If they were not there, it would have been a much more serious massacre.

Video here:
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=a3C25_1564985205

Mask bulletproof vest and ear muffs. Well stocked.
This guy was armed and trained and a known Antifa member.
And there are senators promoting these people?


john70t 08-05-2019 09:04 PM

LMGTFY:
https://truthfeednews.com/tim-kaine-defends-antifa-claims-its-unfair-to-judge-them/
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2017/08/16/mccain-romney-rubio-join-republicans-antifa-club/
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/401699-cnns-cuomo-defends-antifa-those-who-oppose-hate-are-on-the-side-of-right
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/08/28/don_lemon_defends_antifa_no_organization_is_perfec t.html#!
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/14/ted-wheeler-portland-mayor-stands-decision-allow-a/
etc etc

The RT story is also carried by many other websites but is probably better written.
Are you claiming the the story is false? The guy wasn't a leftist?

ian c2 08-05-2019 09:07 PM

Confirmation bias

ian c2 08-05-2019 09:09 PM

Blaming another “opposition” political party will hardly help .

john70t 08-05-2019 09:25 PM

If the guy was KKK-related...madcorgi would be all over it.
Everyone a shade lighter than coal would forever be equally guilty in his eyes.
He's already expressed his distain for his own heritage.

Change the players and suddenly it's all different?
That is not "bias"?
It sure sounds like bias to me. A cancer of our modern culture and legal system

island911 08-05-2019 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ian c2 (Post 10548723)
Blaming another “opposition” political party will hardly help .

hmmm..."hardly help"... what? Understanding of motive?

Regardless of party the TX killer was distraught over the failure of this sovereign nation to control her borders. So distraught that he knew that he would give his life to send a message to those who he saw as invaders.

The political will has been to allow gaming of our immigration system. One party even sent advisers across the border to teach border jumpers how to game our system. Same party encourages voter fraud with motor-voter driver's Licenses.


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