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AMD vs. Intel

Someone give me the info! Throw me a bone!

My Desktop is an i7-4930K @ 3.4 with an ASUS P9X79 Mother board and 32GB of DDR3 RAM and a GeFORCE GTX 1060 3GB video card. It is now 5.5 Years old....

Looking to upgrade the whole shebang. This machine will probably move home to our office as a PC. It is still a strong machine...but....

Looking to rebuild. I may keep the Video Card. While not the TOP it is a respectable card.

AMD vs. Intel. For similar money, about $500 I can go with an intel i9-9900K, which is a screamer of a processor. For similar money I can get a Ryzen 9 3900X.

Tom's Hardware had a good this vs. that. Intel is better for single thread, AMD better if the program is optimized for multi-core.

Anyone have real world experience? I've used AMD products with success in the past.

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I have no real world at home or work. Can't afford it at home and we use heftier ones at work for virtualization.

That said, Anandtech also had similar results as Tom's. What is the purpose of the new machine? If you are doing video work, go Intel. If you are multitasking a bunch of apps that do heavy lifting, AMD would have the edge. I assume you are updating the video card as well?
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Primary PC at work plus used to do Autocad.
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That whole setup sounds pretty potent to me. Better than my aging PC rig.

Where are you trying to gain performance? And by how much? I've had both AMD and Intel setups in the past and lean Intel now.
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Does Autocad support multithreading? This might be a case where the GPU might be more important than the CPU.

An nVidia Titan or 2080 series card for Autocad, if the budget provides for it.
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Autocad is not multithreading, except in rendering
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I am far from an expert, my son is building all his friends machines lately and I am sick of him going off on rants about how AMD is better than that overpriced Intel crap and Intel better get off its high horse over pricing because AMD has surpassed them.

He only buys AMD processors now and spends the saved money on the best video card he can buy.
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I regularly switch back and forth between Intel and AMD. One issue, while I might save on an AMD processor, the Intel motherboard selections are usually greater and often less expensive, negating some of the AMD pricing advantage.
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Not an expert, but the AMD Ryzen7+ is just as fast and much cheaper for home use:
https://www.pcworld.com/article/3403018/intel-core-vs-amd-ryzen-which-offers-the-best-bang-for-buck.html
"No surprise: AMD’s multi-threaded value isn’t just good, it’s insanely good".

Gigabyte motherboards are reputed to be pretty durable.

I read an article that indicated Intel was moving away from the individual PC market and into larger server farms (google/fb/nsa/israelcough):
https://seekingalpha.com/article/3044536-facebook-and-others-favor-intel-for-their-mega-server-farms
https://siteselection.com/ssinsider/bbdeal/bd991108.htm
https://esj.com/articles/1999/06/09/intel-to-increase-internet-presence-with-server-farms_633718605095030132.aspx
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If I were to build a money no object Autocad/Autodesk machine I would go with Intel and a Titan as big as you can afford.

A gaming system I would probably lean to AMD. We are split at home depending on which had the best bang for the buck at the time.
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I expect that the vast majority of your software will benefit from faster single thread speed.
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I have used AMD since they came out ,many years ago. My current one is the Ryzen model with 32 cores so I can go into task manager and set the # cores for a job such as creating videos, ETC and so far have never ever caused it to go to 100%.

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