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Does your dog bite?
Even worse, he judges...



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Old 08-08-2019, 11:15 AM
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Does your dog bite?
That's not my dawg....she seems to belong to herself and bosses me around tho' .

The alpha GSD next door too...
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Even worse, he judges...


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Saw a pack of coyotes kill a deer out on the ice of frozen lake behind the house one night. In the morning it looked like a deer ate a grenade. Parts and limbs and blood in a 50’ radius on the snowy ice. Since then, I keep an eye out for them. Come winter, they get real hungry 😋
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Does your dog bite?
Sounds like a line from Pink Panther. Peter Sellers asks does your dog bite (there is a dog near Peter) at a hotel. The person at the desk says no says no. Sellers goes up to the dog and the dog bites him. Sellers says, " hey, I thought you said your dog doesn't bite" The man replies, "that's not my dog".

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I used to hunt coyotes for their pelts. By the time I had given it up due to plummeting prices, I had lost track of how many I had killed. A couple hundred at least.

In order to excel at this game, one must learn to speak the language. Barking is very much a part of that language. The classic call imitates a dying rabbit, of course, but in hard hunted areas, coyotes soon learn to be extremely cautious about "dying rabbits". That is when one must change tactics and rather than sound like prey, sound like predator - sound like a coyote. They are very social animals. Learning their own distress calls, their "come on" calls, their challenges, their locating calls, and all of that will make one successful where the "rabbit callers" fail.

So, yes, they do "bark", kind of. But not like a domestic dog - it's not an alert or a challenge. It's a greeting, or a "gather 'em up" rallying cry, or a "whose there?" kind of thing. It works great when you know they are about, and want them to come in closer and show themselves. It's very disarming to them, so they get a little less cautious. Which is what we want...
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Yes they do. Heard some again this morning.

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Been quiet back there for a couple of nights now....I'll check my cams in a day or so.
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Lots of coy-dogs in the mountains around here. They make different sounds and are usually much larger than a coyote. Perhaps one of those?
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coyotes in the east (like NC) are very likely hybrids
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It's a different kind of "bark" but yeah, they do it.
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coyotes in the east (like NC) are very likely hybrids
The hybrids account for the reports of outsized coyotes. "Purebred" coyotes just don't get very big. A 40 pound male is a very, very big coyote. Most go somewhere in the 30's, if that. I think the biggest pure coyote on record just topped 70 pounds, but that lands squarely in the "freak" category - kind of the Andre the Giant of the coyote world.
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We have seen them in Dana Point a lot, some come walking through the street in the evening but we never hear them until they make their kill, probably someones cat of small dog, then they light it off, the celebration. I like the signs on the lamp posts, Reward for poodle, like those Coyotes can read. Dad just put them up to make mom and the kids feel better.
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The hybrids account for the reports of outsized coyotes. "Purebred" coyotes just don't get very big. A 40 pound male is a very, very big coyote. Most go somewhere in the 30's, if that. I think the biggest pure coyote on record just topped 70 pounds, but that lands squarely in the "freak" category - kind of the Andre the Giant of the coyote world.
Yup - may also relate to higher aggression levels, like that woman who was killed a few years ago...
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Ironically, in this state, the Coyotes are more of an urban and suburban problem. Very few of them in the more rural areas, where sheep are grazed in the spring. Mini 14's very popular with folks around here because high capacity magazines work well when shooting at a running coyote.

A cattle rancher near Adin, California I worked for during my 15th summer had a dog...a cross between greyhound and Irish wolf hound. Riding in a jeep, he'd jump out running if he spotted a Coyote. It was amazing to watch the distance shrink between him & the Coyote. When the distance closed? It wasn't good for the coyote.
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Ironically, in this state, the Coyotes are more of an urban and suburban problem. Very few of them in the more rural areas, where sheep are grazed in the spring. Mini 14's very popular with folks around here because high capacity magazines work well when shooting at a running coyote.

A cattle rancher near Adin, California I worked for during my 15th summer had a dog...a cross between greyhound and Irish wolf hound. Riding in a jeep, he'd jump out running if he spotted a Coyote. It was amazing to watch the distance shrink between him & the Coyote. When the distance closed? It wasn't good for the coyote.
I went on a coyote hunt with greyhounds. One time. A group of dog owners would meet up and mark out territory to patrol. Communication at the time was by CB. When one guy spotted a coyote he would report the position and everyone else would haul ass to the location.

The coyote had the stamina but the greyhounds had the shorter distance speed. At full speed the greyhounds would catch him and roll him. He would roll back on his feet and kept trucking. About the time the first group of hounds were gassed another truck load of hounds would be released. We followed the chase from the truck.

That SOB ran for nearly 2 miles before he had had enough. He backed up to a culvert at a dirt road intersection and let the dogs know he would take em on one at a time or all at once. We were parked about 20 ft from the action.

He would get get distracted by one dog and another would dart in and bite him on the ass. Finally, all the dogs jumped him all at once. He lost but he tore the living crap out of a bunch of dogs.

It was absolutely the worst thing I have ever seen. Would never do it again.
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So that 'yote got exactly what he & his buddies do to cats and small dogs whenever they get a chance. Try to look at it that way.
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[QUOTE=KC911;10551368] I "think" there was one behind my back fence....mebbe 20' into the woods...moved a bit deeper back when I lit it's eyes up and then strobed for a bit.

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So that 'yote got exactly what he & his buddies do to cats and small dogs whenever they get a chance. Try to look at it that way.
I don't have a problem with him biting the dust. In the wild it is not unusual. I just don't want to see it happen up front and personal.
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I don't have a problem with him biting the dust. In the wild it is not unusual. I just don't want to see it happen up front and personal.
I'm sure it really was quite unsettling. Having hunted all of my life, I'm not sure I would want any part of that either. That said, that scenario plays out each and every day in their world - it's just that they are not often on the receiving end. I can't muster any sympathy. That doesn't mean I want to watch, though.

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