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Baz 09-09-2019 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Neilk (Post 10586756)
-snip-since reconstruction will take years and years. Our loss is nothing compared to what the locals lost. Devastating.

-snip-

For me, it seems like it will be the same type of rebuild effort as when Andrew hit South Florida.

Except of course you're dealing with islands instead of the mainland - which will require extra logistics and coordination.

Factor in also The Bahamas are not part of the US, so they are not eligible for the same federal aid.

That said, it looks like so far there are plenty of parties stepping up and stepping in to assist with the effort.

I think there are many who have been through this before and that knowledge will be very useful.

Sorry to hear of your loss, Neil.

red-beard 09-09-2019 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Baz (Post 10586870)
For me, it seems like it will be the same type of rebuild effort as when Andrew hit South Florida.

Except of course you're dealing with islands instead of the mainland - which will require extra logistics and coordination.

Texas still has not fully rebuilt since Harvey. It takes a while. Puerto Rico will take nearly forever, with all of the corruption.

Neilk 09-09-2019 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Baz (Post 10586870)
For me, it seems like it will be the same type of rebuild effort as when Andrew hit South Florida.

Except of course you're dealing with islands instead of the mainland - which will require extra logistics and coordination.

Factor in also The Bahamas are not part of the US, so they are not eligible for the same federal aid.

That said, it looks like so far there are plenty of parties stepping up and stepping in to assist with the effort.

I think there are many who have been through this before and that knowledge will be very useful.

Sorry to hear of your loss, Neil.


The problems with places like the Bahamas and Puerto Rico are resource constraints. Where can you find and house enough workers to rebuild a devastated island where many people left and there is no place to house them. ?

Places on the mainland can easily have workers drive 50+ miles to work in massive construction zones where they can then go back home at the end of the day. You would almost need a cruise ship full of workers docked in front of Marsh Harbor for months to get anything accomplished.

The humanitarian support has been amazing, my brother loaded several boats and brought supplies as well. Just wondering how the rebuilding will work out.

RWebb 09-09-2019 12:46 PM

Texas still has not fully rebuilt Galveston either. It was wiped out. Houston took over.

Some areas will have to be abandoned in the future. This was a wakeup call for those in So. Florida who didn't get the previous alarms.

My best to the Bahamas, and also Costa Rica.

KFC911 09-09-2019 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Neilk (Post 10587029)
The problems with places like the Bahamas and Puerto Rico are resource constraints. Where can you find and house enough workers to rebuild a devastated island where many people left and there is no place to house them. ?

Places on the mainland can easily have workers drive 50+ miles to work in massive construction zones where they can then go back home at the end of the day. You would almost need a cruise ship full of workers docked in front of Marsh Harbor for months to get anything accomplished.

The humanitarian support has been amazing, my brother loaded several boats and brought supplies as well. Just wondering how the rebuilding will work out.

Hopefully cruise ships will do just that. Best to you Neil and all that were impacted.

red-beard 09-09-2019 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 10587033)
Texas still has not fully rebuilt Galveston either. It was wiped out. Houston took over.

Some areas will have to be abandoned in the future. This was a wakeup call for those in So. Florida who didn't get the previous alarms.

My best to the Bahamas, and also Costa Rica.

Actually, Dallas took over. Banking was the big business of Galveston. They moved it WAY inland where the Hurricanes wouldn't touch. Dallas was a hub of railroads, making it actually more convenient than Galveston.

daepp 09-09-2019 04:54 PM

NOLA isn’t the same post Katrina. A great deal of labor went to Houston never to return.

Jims5543 09-10-2019 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Neilk (Post 10586756)
Our family has been going to Treasure Cay for the past 40+ years.

Here's what remains. Our condo was one of the units 1:30 into the video. It has been especially painful for my parents, especially for my stepfather who will be 85. He doesn't think we will ever be able to go back since reconstruction will take years and years. Our loss is nothing compared to what the locals lost. Devastating.

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I think it is fascinating the house that the drone flies over at the 4:00 mark looks to be perfectly in tact sans 1 missing metal roof piece.


Also there is a 2 story house at 0:40 and a 1 story house at 0:53 that both look to be in great shape.

If you look in the background in a lot of places there seem to be some more modern construction homes all in pretty good shape. Which is encouraging, that means we are indeed capable of building houses that can stand up to the Worst a Cat 5 can throw at them.

Yes, there is devastating destruction, I do see some silver lining, hopefully the houses that survived will teach a lesson, that area needs stricter building codes than Dade County (Miami) has, which is the gold standard here in Florida.


Thanks for posting that video, I need to scour around and see if there are any video's of Scotland Cay and see if my friends old house is still there. He rebuilt it after it was destroyed by a tornado in a Hurricane, I cannot recall right now which one. The rebuilt a bunker of a house. They self insured and had over 200K in the "insurance account" when the house was leveled.

Baz 09-11-2019 06:40 PM

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flatbutt 09-12-2019 05:10 AM

hoo boy and still more than a month to go. I wonder if the Bahamas could b evacuated as much as possible until November?

Seahawk 09-12-2019 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Neilk (Post 10586756)
Our family has been going to Treasure Cay for the past 40+ years.

Here's what remains. Our condo was one of the units 1:30 into the video. It has been especially painful for my parents, especially for my stepfather who will be 85. He doesn't think we will ever be able to go back since reconstruction will take years and years. Our loss is nothing compared to what the locals lost. Devastating.

Wow.

We are working with a firm that has a Remotely piloted surface UAS that performs a number of missions.

They have been in the Bahamas clearing small harbors with "Emily" equipped with sonar. They are looking at our tethered ducted fan UAS to extend the range of Emily command and control.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1568295356.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1568295482.jpg

BeyGon 09-12-2019 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 10587033)
Texas still has not fully rebuilt Galveston either. It was wiped out. Houston took over.

Some areas will have to be abandoned in the future. This was a wakeup call for those in So. Florida who didn't get the previous alarms.

My best to the Bahamas, and also Costa Rica.

When exactly did a hurricane hit Costa Rica, and also, isn't Bahama a British Commonwealth, what are the Brits doing to help?

Jims5543 09-12-2019 10:44 AM

Florida is domed. The expert news says so. I hope there is outrage if this "forecast" turns out to be false.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1176802/hurricane-latest-florida-weather-tropical-storm-humberto-noaa-nhc-hurricane-center

RWebb 09-12-2019 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BeyGon (Post 10590101)
When exactly did a hurricane hit Costa Rica, and also, isn't Bahama a British Commonwealth, what are the Brits doing to help?

Mr. Butterfield, a simple Google search can answer your questions.

LMK if you need help.

BeyGon 09-12-2019 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 10590551)
Mr. Butterfield, a simple Google search can answer your questions.

LMK if you need help.

you made the statement about Costa Rica and a hurricane, I just wanted to see if you could back it up, and you can't.

RWebb 09-12-2019 02:44 PM

I can. Also work on reading in context.* Did you see the part about Galveston? You can look up when that was and use it as a starting point.

Or in your case, "reeding"

Now go back to PARF like a good little boy.

BeyGon 09-12-2019 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 10590705)
I can. Also work on reading in context.* Did you see the part about Galveston? You can look up when that was and use it as a starting point.

Or in your case, "reeding"

Now go back to PARF like a good little boy.

so you still can't prove Costa Rica was damaged by the hurricane,

wdfifteen 09-12-2019 03:39 PM

Geeze, get a room you two. Maybe the PARF hotel on Ban Island has a vacancy.

Jims5543 09-12-2019 04:01 PM

Not sure this will work, I am on my phone.

Caravan of trucks in Florida heading to port to ship out supplies.


https://twitter.com/Bahamaspress/status/1171497852968689671?s=09

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Baz 09-12-2019 04:14 PM

Hug it out, boys...... :)


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