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Accident I investigators are estimating around140.

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Old 11-12-2019, 07:14 AM
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They flew off that road into that bldg.??? How the heck did they do that?
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Old 11-12-2019, 08:08 AM
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some details on this accident finally.



The kid had a dash mounted go pro camera which captured the night's events leading up to the accident. There was also video from the previous night of him speeding all over TR and Seaside Heights.



Counting down the seconds on the video, and measuring the distance he travelled between two traffic lights, the speed was calculated at 135 mph when he lost control.



As he spun out across 4 lanes of road, the car flipped and was going backwards on its roof. It was a convertible with a roll bar. The roll bar was pushed forward and down intruding into the back of the car seats



The car then left the roadway, into a drainage ditch, which based on its shape/curvature acted like a ski ramp. The ditch vaulted the car airborne. The car then cleared 75 feet of distance (in the air) before impacting the building at a height of 15 feet up from ground level.



A tire from the vehicle was ripped off, prior to impact with the building. That tire was vaulted 200 feet in a northerly direction and into the parking lot of a church which was north of the building he struck.



He was rolling with such violence the side view mirrors were found planted firmly into the ground (like a stake) in the ditch.



From loss of control to final rest, the vehicle traversed 125+ yards.



Everything I just described happened in less than 5 seconds.



Just a horrific wreck.



A few years ago, he had been stopped by us in a hopped up Mustang doing 108 in a 50. So a propensity to be a risky driver.
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At 135 mph that sweeping curve turned into a hairpin.
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At 135 mph, there's enough raw energy to scale a 10 story building by my estimate.
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Speed does NOT kill, it is the unplanned sudden stop that kills.

The astronauts in the space station are going 17,000 MPH and have no problems. They have to slow down to zero MPH to be back on earth, and it takes a lot or generated heat to slow them back down safely.
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Today (11/15) from the Asbury Park Press;
The driver was not the owner.
The owner was in the passenger seat.

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Old 11-15-2019, 11:58 AM
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Speed does NOT kill, it is the unplanned sudden stop that kills.
Not so much when you're not the one in the speeding vehicle:

https://nypost.com/2019/08/11/horrifying-video-shows-crash-that-killed-cyclist-in-brooklyn/
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The car then left the roadway, into a drainage ditch, which based on its shape/curvature acted like a ski ramp. The ditch vaulted the car airborne. The car then cleared 75 feet of distance (in the air) before impacting the building at a height of 15 feet up from ground level.
This makes it clear. Thanks. I was struggling with the car traveling almost 200 feet in the air (google earth ruler) from hitting the curb initially after looking at masraum's pics in post #11.

I had a little Google Earth party before reading your post so I'll post the pics. The first pic is the drainage ditch ramp best I can figure. The other two are from where they hit the curb. I incorrectly assumed only air from that point.







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The inverted car with the sloped hood and trunk probably helped it bounce off instead of digging into the ground.


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Either way he got real good air time, it's pretty impressive flying that far, without wings.
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Either way he got real good air time, it's pretty impressive flying that far, without wings.
Well, go big or go home.
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OTOH, who gives a schit? This is a lot of discussion about a traffic accident, even if it was unusual and involved a Boxster, which is a mass-produced car if there ever was one.

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Speed does NOT kill, it is the unplanned sudden stop that kills.

The astronauts in the space station are going 17,000 MPH and have no problems. They have to slow down to zero MPH to be back on earth, and it takes a lot or generated heat to slow them back down safely.
My personality, the "speed kills" things makes me eye roll.

What kills is pilot error and mechanical failure.

When one of those two happen, the initial velocities to deal with increase or decrease the risk of fatality.

A far better concept than speed kills, is to exhibit the forces involved when relative velocities terminate. A watermelon and a trebuchet can make a good example.
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you can get killed in a 0.1 mph accident just as guaranteed.

If you get between a ship and another ship, you gonna have a bad day just as well
nope, speed has nothing to do with it, it's mass that kills ya
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Shouldn't that be force instead? (M * A)

A mosquito near the speed of light will go through anything.
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Probably a suicide. Lots of car crashes are.
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Shouldn't that be force instead? (M * A)

A mosquito near the speed of light will go through anything.
Nooooo, it is still the mass of the mosquito that kills ya!!!
photons and gluons have no mass and go straight through at the speed of light,
and your'e just fine from it..

Speed, does not kill!
Anybody who says differently is a god damned liar .

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