Escalade warped rotors (boat hauling) Suggestions

[Bob Kontak]

Navigator and Escalade for this guy have both ended in warped rotors from hauling a boat.

Local old school FLAPS owner says get the racing rotors at Summit as he has sent a few customers that way.

Any suggestions as to a type or brand that may withstand heat better?

[Porsche-O-Phile]

How do you warp the rotors from towing something? Riding the brakes the entire time? If so I suggest swapping out the faulty component between the wheel and the front seat as new rotors will likely need replacement again in short order...

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile

If so I suggest swapping out the faulty component between the wheel and the front seat

That would be the steering wheel.

I hear you and texted him just what you said.

I argued with him on the Navigator that rotors don't usually warp but dial indicator confirmed they were.

[dad911]

Hills and ramps, teach him to engine brake and use low gears.

Towing trailer down the hill at Watkins, low gear greatly reduces brakes.....

[flipper35]

Is it a big boat? Trailer brakes?

[stevej37]

Maybe when backing his boat and trailer down the access...he goes far enough to get the very hot rotors in the cold water.
Just my guess.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by flipper35

Is it a big boat? Trailer brakes?

8,000 lubs

Firing these questions to him.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by flipper35

Trailer brakes?

"I have surge brakes that work kinda half-assed" (Hmmmmm)

Originally Posted by stevej37

Maybe when backing his boat and trailer down the access...he goes far enough to get the very hot rotors in the cold water.
Just my guess.

Rear tires in water only. Not even deep enough to touch rotors.

[908/930]

Have him fix the trailer brakes.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by 908/930

Have him fix the trailer brakes.

Has to be a significant contributor.

[908/930]

He could always just get a larger truck, possibly a Freightliner.

[asphaltgambler]

Bob - are his trailer brakes of the surge variety?

[908/930]

Is this truck driven every day? Just thinking if it sits outside for a long time unused could be moisture under pads corroding the discs.

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

"I have surge brakes that work kinda half-assed" (Hmmmmm)



Rear tires in water only. Not even deep enough to touch rotors.

Did he remember to take the pin out after backing it in so they actually work?

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

1, Surge brakes suck, you something a LOT better.

Originally Posted by asphaltgambler

Bob - are his trailer brakes of the surge variety?

Yes, surge brakes.

Originally Posted by flipper35

Did he remember to take the pin out after backing it in so they actually work?

This relates to surge brakes?

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by 908/930

He could always just get a larger truck, possibly a Freightliner.

He's well over 85% weight capacity.

[asphaltgambler]

Surge brakes are the worst. Some though needs to look at the trailer brakes, adjustment and how much load is placed on the master cylinder pushrod. Thinking you can adjust that, if I remember correctly.

[rusnak]

Yep I know he had surge brakes. He needs to switch to electronic brakes with a controller on the dashboard.

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

Yes, surge brakes.



This relates to surge brakes?

Yes, most have a pin you put in so you can back the trailer up your driveway and such without the brakes engaging. Otherwise you are fighting the brakes when trying to park the trailer.

Most vehicles with the tow package are easy to put proper brakes on the trailer as well.

[red-beard]

Rotors warp with differential cooling. You need to cool them down before you park. I learned that with an Explorer (auto transmission) on the Grapevine. We stopped at a rest area 3/4 the way down. The rotors were hot and when we stopped, the brake pads prevented proper cooling. Had to pull into a brake shop in Bakersfield to get them turned.